How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I dunno understand this mmed fm thingy leh
All other specs also got mmed mah
Failure rate also high

How come only mmed fm got trauma?
Strawberries?

You ownself
Don’t project on others leh.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I dunno understand this mmed fm thingy leh
All other specs also got mmed mah
Failure rate also high

How come only mmed fm got trauma?
Strawberries?

All other specialty will do UK exams first. Or Australia. The MMed is the final exit. More of a formality.

Maybe this is what they should do for Family Medicine/GP too. Take MRCGP first. Or FRACGP. Then MMed. That way the attrition happens earlier. If cannot even clear MRCGP or FRACGP then no need bother with MMed.

Also means more effort needed to become Family Physician. If it is not worth the effort and hoops then forget about it.

I think right now they dangling the carrots but also feel they dowan to pass everyone.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

All other specialty will do UK exams first. Or Australia. The MMed is the final exit. More of a formality.

Maybe this is what they should do for Family Medicine/GP too. Take MRCGP first. Or FRACGP. Then MMed. That way the attrition happens earlier. If cannot even clear MRCGP or FRACGP then no need bother with MMed.

Also means more effort needed to become Family Physician. If it is not worth the effort and hoops then forget about it.

I think right now they dangling the carrots but also feel they dowan to pass everyone.

Huh?
How dare u suggest FM m.med above fracgp or mrcgp.

Anyway, all exit exam are local what save some esoteric field like neurosurgery or pathology
For Ur medical spec, mrcp is intermediate exam, go a few times sure pass
Exit is local exam
For surgery, some like ent just sit mcq nia
Others like Ortho all local exams, the m.med sugery is a formality exam with a half baked dessertation Nia

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Huh?
How dare u suggest FM m.med above fracgp or mrcgp.

Anyway, all exit exam are local what save some esoteric field like neurosurgery or pathology
For Ur medical spec, mrcp is intermediate exam, go a few times sure pass
Exit is local exam
For surgery, some like ent just sit mcq nia
Others like Ortho all local exams, the m.med sugery is a formality exam with a half baked dessertation Nia

Not suggesting FM MMed is above FRACGP or MRCGP.
But suggesting that FM be treated the same as other disciplines.
I heard that the reason why MOH does not want GPs taking MRCGP or FRACGP is because if they did it would mean some of these GPs will be eligible to move abroad to work as GPs/FPs.
Hence they don't want to risk losing talent.
In other words MOH is intentionally limiting the options for GPs.
If all MMEd exams are "formality exams" then why is MMed Fam Med different?

Again I think it is because MOH fears that if GPs all had their MRCGP or FRACGP they will likely move abroad.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not suggesting FM MMed is above FRACGP or MRCGP.
But suggesting that FM be treated the same as other disciplines.
I heard that the reason why MOH does not want GPs taking MRCGP or FRACGP is because if they did it would mean some of these GPs will be eligible to move abroad to work as GPs/FPs.
Hence they don't want to risk losing talent.
In other words MOH is intentionally limiting the options for GPs.
If all MMEd exams are "formality exams" then why is MMed Fam Med different?

Again I think it is because MOH fears that if GPs all had their MRCGP or FRACGP they will likely move abroad.

Funny
Then why dun all the Malaysian or HK FP with fracgp move to Australia?
Fyi the m.med FM in sg is partially reco in aus and NZ
U need to work supervised for 1 year then sit their exams to get the local equivalent
If u have fellowship, it's directly convert to frnzcgp in nz
For NHS, the m.med can be map over directly.

Radiology , neurosurgery and pathology all sit auzzie exams
U dun seem the mass exudous over

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Funny
Then why dun all the Malaysian or HK FP with fracgp move to Australia?
Fyi the m.med FM in sg is partially reco in aus and NZ
U need to work supervised for 1 year then sit their exams to get the local equivalent
If u have fellowship, it's directly convert to frnzcgp in nz
For NHS, the m.med can be map over directly.

Radiology , neurosurgery and pathology all sit auzzie exams
U dun seem the mass exudous over

The pay is so much better in sg for specialists
After tax and the strong dollar
Singapore definitely better to live

If you exclude car, sg really a cheaper place to live
Housing in big cities r the same

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Funny
Then why dun all the Malaysian or HK FP with fracgp move to Australia?
Fyi the m.med FM in sg is partially reco in aus and NZ
U need to work supervised for 1 year then sit their exams to get the local equivalent
If u have fellowship, it's directly convert to frnzcgp in nz
For NHS, the m.med can be map over directly.

Radiology , neurosurgery and pathology all sit auzzie exams
U dun seem the mass exudous over

Many do move.
Its just that in Singapore salaries are so high SG drs dont bother moving.

Are neurosurgery residency and cardiothoracic surgery residency competitive? how to get in?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

U can retake as a private candidate mah
Go GP land life v good u might not want to retake liao.

My time m.med is hurdle.
Slides dun pass, no need go viva
Vivia dun pass, no need go clinical liao.
Every week go board and see whether u can go next round.
Machan some reality show competition.

Nowadays residency so well supported
So much pastoral care
What u want , pd try to accomodate.
Got proper syllabus
Resident clinic
Got preceptor teach

Our time where got? Throw u into ops and see
120 patient a day
I only meet my supervisor first and last day of posting

In other words, dun be so strawberry la.

You sound very senior in the public sector. Would I be correct to suggest that mmed is probably not as important compared to nowadays in your time? My preceptor (who is very senior in his late 50s used to tell me one can be head of ops with just mbbs back in his junior days)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You sound very senior in the public sector. Would I be correct to suggest that mmed is probably not as important compared to nowadays in your time? My preceptor (who is very senior in his late 50s used to tell me one can be head of ops with just mbbs back in his junior days)

M.med even less impt in my time.
Most just go out open clinic
Times were simple. Doctors were few
No TPA, cash only
Receptionist 800 per mth.
One year hardly 20 pple want do family and community medicine as it was know back then.
Polyclinic was a hardship posting and we got to get IM trainees to do a term

Ops was never a place for serious medicine last time
So whoever garang can take up head. No one interested la
Now they prefer at least m.med
And think almost all got fcfp.
And more pple interested so got competitive.

Nowadays m.med more impt tbh
Only with it u can eek out a decent paying job in public
Private world, I dunno man
Clinic mushroom all over the island
But all not doing real medicine
Some chains expand so fast flushed with pandemic money
Give it a few years when money dry out see what happens.
You don't want to be stuck without a job, in a saturated private market where u can't open a clinic and don't hhave a pedigree that allows u dignity in public

U got m.med training dun waste it on urti , back pain.