Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not sure, but NUS is the best according to QS rankings.

Honestly in practice... No one gives a crap about rankings. There are NUS / SMU / Oxbridge grads who are terrible when it comes to practice.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

yeah but what about the shame of telling your dick measuring relatives that you now work at tan ah kow llp "helping" people who dont check blind spot before changing lanes?

I'm the OP.
I do so proudly, actually.
Probably even more so when I start my own firm, which is the plan in a couple of years.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I rmb those days. The 2014 to 2016 call batches was the start of the glut.

Those were bleak times man. Many lower tier foreign grads couldn't get TCs. Luckily I studied in NUS but even then my NUS peers were pretty worried about the TC situation, even those average second uppers.

Lots of fear mongering and newspaper articles about glut of lawyers too. That's when Minlaw, being ever reactive, decided to tighten the screws and delist a bunch

Anyway, I knew quite a few lower tier foreign grad friends who didn't go on to practice or started in small/no-name firms, got disillusioned and left law. But generally they went on to do other interesting things la.

Most of them were rich or at least upper-mid class though. So being 3 to 4 months out of job while they figured out what they wanted to do wasn't really painful for them. More like an extended holiday with a safety net.

But i suppose such is life. If your family's rich, you never have to really worry.

Yes. I was also part of this batch.
It was painful.
In my study group of 5, only 2 of us are still in practice. To be honest though, the other 3 have all gone on to exciting in-house roles (big F500 or banks). Don't think we're any worse off. Also don't think we had it any "easier" as the earlier poster seems to suggest.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not sure if troll but I'll take the bait anw lmao.

Unless you studied in Oxbridge or LSE, you have no right to feel like a "successful person" for studying law overseas. The fact that you did not study in NUS or SMU means that you are already intellectually worse than 50% of the law aspirant cohort of your batch, since these 2 schools are more competitive than other foreign law schools on the scheduled list sans Oxbridge.

As a matter of fact, your default state should be to feel like a "failure" and work your way upwards from there.

Why do posters on this forum make such asinine comments? After a few years in practice, whether you went to NUS/SMU or UK/Aus universities no longer matter as much. Employers value you based on your experience and the quality of your work.

Ironically, MC/US firms that recruit in London/SG take a liking to candidates from UK universities because a large number of partners are British, and it helps with building rapport, cultural fit and whatnot.

I was rejected by NUS and SMU law. I went to what most posters on this forum would consider a second rate degree mill UK university. I'm drawing the increased Milbank/Davis Polk salary (and Cravath scale bonuses). My target hours are less than what a Big 4 associate is expected to pull. I don't see myself as a "successful person" but I don't see myself as a "failure" either.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Honestly in practice... No one gives a crap about rankings. There are NUS / SMU / Oxbridge grads who are terrible when it comes to practice.

not to mention 2:1s who are less competent than 2:2s

Actually those who come from delisted uni, have some faith in yourself.
From the forums, you know that pure supremacist zealots will always find ways and means to say you’re terribly obnoxious and incompetent at work, etc.
Take those verbiage with a pinch of salt. Supremacists will always be one, they need to shut you out for fear of being replaced.

What university you come from doesn’t mean anything...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not sure if troll but I'll take the bait anw lmao.

Unless you studied in Oxbridge or LSE, you have no right to feel like a "successful person" for studying law overseas. The fact that you did not study in NUS or SMU means that you are already intellectually worse than 50% of the law aspirant cohort of your batch, since these 2 schools are more competitive than other foreign law schools on the scheduled list sans Oxbridge.

As a matter of fact, your default state should be to feel like a "failure" and work your way upwards from there.

Why do posters on this forum make such asinine comments? After a few years in practice, whether you went to NUS/SMU or UK/Aus universities no longer matter as much. Employers value you based on your experience and the quality of your work.

Ironically, MC/US firms that recruit in London/SG take a liking to candidates from UK universities because a large number of partners are British, and it helps with building rapport, cultural fit and whatnot.

I was rejected by NUS and SMU law. I went to what most posters on this forum would consider a second rate degree mill UK university. I'm drawing the increased Milbank/Davis Polk salary (and Cravath scale bonuses). My target hours are less than what a Big 4 associate is expected to pull. I don't see myself as a "successful person" but I don't see myself as a "failure" either.

Referring to the comment that said:

“Unless you studied in Oxbridge or LSE, you have no right to feel like a "successful person" for studying law overseas. The fact that you did not study in NUS or SMU means that you are already intellectually worse than 50% of the law aspirant cohort of your batch, since these 2 schools are more competitive than other foreign law schools on the scheduled list sans Oxbridge.

As a matter of fact, your default state should be to feel like a "failure" and work your way upwards from there.”

Why do posters on this forum make such asinine comments? After a few years in practice, whether you went to NUS/SMU or UK/Aus universities no longer matter as much. Employers value you based on your experience and the quality of your work.

Ironically, MC/US firms that recruit in London/SG take a liking to candidates from UK universities because a large number of partners are British, and it helps with building rapport, cultural fit and whatnot.

I was rejected by NUS and SMU law. I went to what most posters on this forum would consider a second rate degree mill UK university. I'm drawing the increased Milbank/Davis Polk salary (and Cravath scale bonuses). My target hours are less than what a Big 4 associate is expected to pull. I don't see myself as a "successful person" but I don't see myself as a "failure" either.

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