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Old 18-08-2018, 01:45 AM
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You should be reading through the threads to find the answer to your question. If you don't like doing research I have some bad news for you...

In any case, I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, but NUS law, no question. SMU law grads are typically (the operative word being "typically") seen as all talk and little substance, according to a number of practitioners I've candidly spoken to over the years. It does not help that the hiring partners in my practice group appear to share this view.

Hang onto that offer, though be warned; I've been told that the culture at NUS law is rather toxic (good preparation for the cesspool of toxicity that is the legal profession, perhaps?)
i'm a 3-4 PQE nus grad and after several years of working with other smu and nus grads, i can honestly say there is really no difference. both are solid picks and produce grads who are technically sound in the law.

i used to be an nus snob but that whole supposed rivalry is really overblown and only a thing if you're still a law student.

its the law grads that are from the subpar lower tier overseas schools that are the problem. many of them like to talk a lot, take shortcuts and have rather weak foundations when it comes to legal thinking comprehension and understanding. i think 4 years of rigorous local law education and fighting the bellcurve really makes a whole world of difference.

the good thing about nus is the sheer diversity of modules available in so many areas of law. really took it for granted then & now i realise the wide selection of subjects offered is really a privilege. nus is a solid pick if you want to do a reputable LLM overseas later or are interested in academia.

smu has lesser breadth of modules but the professors are just as good - many were in fact poached from nus! on the plus side they've got a swanky new building, if you're into shiny superficial things.

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Made a really bad mistake at work today sighhh. Ok maybe not the worse - the client is not affected at all - more like it was embarrassing in that I missed something single-mindedly. I gotta say if you are not a meticulous person, you really aren't suitable for law. What is the biggest mistake that you have ever made in your career?

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Made a really bad mistake at work today sighhh. Ok maybe not the worse - the client is not affected at all - more like it was embarrassing in that I missed something single-mindedly. I gotta say if you are not a meticulous person, you really aren't suitable for law. What is the biggest mistake that you have ever made in your career?
Well. it is hard to do well in something you don't enjoy. I'm so sick of taking instructions from clients and drafting this, amending that, without having any input to the transactions. Sure, I can tell you that this clause is not advantageous to you, or you should add this anti-dilution provision to the contract. But besides that, I am basically a robot taking instructions and churning out deliverables. I don't decide the commercial terms of the contract or decide on how to execute the transaction. What's so glamourous about being a corporate lawyer exactly?

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Generally the quality of work is:
NUS > Oxbridge > SMU, LSE, UCL > other uk unis
You sure? Some NUS 2:1 and a lot of 2:2 work standard quite bad.
SMU a lot of fluff.
Overseas uni most 2:1 and below not that good.
But if they have someone willing to train them it’s fine
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You sure? Some NUS 2:1 and a lot of 2:2 work standard quite bad.
SMU a lot of fluff.
Overseas uni most 2:1 and below not that good.
But if they have someone willing to train them it’s fine
This is why we need ceca. Ceca cheap and good. Too bad law is not in the list
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This is why we need ceca. Ceca cheap and good. Too bad law is not in the list
You follow the law of the land you want a job in la
Brother, this is so easy to understand what
Sg protect Singaporean first
Same, England protect British first
Everywhere same same
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I understand that the legal market has been fluctuating in recent years, and the same goes with the lawyers’ salary. Can the latest batch of NQ update us on the pay that you are receiving? Thank you!
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This is why we need ceca. Ceca cheap and good. Too bad law is not in the list
Avijit is this you?
straitstimes.com/singapore/police-probe-facebook-graphic-of-flag-being-ripped-apart
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Interesting news about the impending combination between K&L Gates and Straits Law. Interesting combi since straits is by and large a pure liti boutique.

Think salaries will rise at straits? What's the firm culture there like btw
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Interesting news about the impending combination between K&L Gates and Straits Law. Interesting combi since straits is by and large a pure liti boutique.

Think salaries will rise at straits? What's the firm culture there like btw
A JV/merger between local and foreign firm has never resulted in salary increases at the local firm. Rather, JLVs create East Berlin-West Berlin splits between the two halves of the JV. An associate joining the JLV via the foreign route will be paid international rates whilst an associate joining the JLV via the local route will be paid local rates.

I don't foresee this latest JLV being an exception.
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