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30-01-2009, 12:19 PM
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3947
Pardon my need for a rebuttal actually,but going by your very flawed risk to rewards logic,you are directly associating risk of death during NS term to the total number of NSF deaths. Having just completed my NS term,I am qualifed to state that those most prone to malladies (and fatal ones at that) during NS are those who are prone to malladies in real life anyway.
Just to sidetrack a bit,wouldn't that explain that taxi drivers are getting the shorter end of the stick,since the rate of occurence of traffic accidents is so damn high?more than NSF deaths or air crashes for that matter.
They would have or wouldn't have died with or without NS. The fact that they happened to die during their NS term is purely coincidental. How many deaths have we heard of, where a soldier is crushed by a tank?or killed by a bullet?Perhaps your imaginations of NS must be mental snippets from war films.
On the contary, a physically unfit soldier dying from strenuous exercise(a long jog?SOC?)is more of a run of the mill NSF death scenario.
Surely I say to you, the number is negligible.
Foreigners (by this,I am refering to the Koreans and Taiwanese in particular) remark at how much of a joke Singaporean National Service is,because of the slew of safety measures put in place by MINDEF.
Minimal outdoor activity in event of eminent lightning activity (Cat 1 to be specific), 6-7 hours of rest during normal training. Even those prone to the dangers of being previously unfit are categorized and seperated from the pack (Pes BP and Pes A/B PTP batch) and given progressive traning.
Or maybe you were horrified at how dangerous wandering through the jungle with nothing but several packets of combat rations is.
I am not ardent fan of NS (and I don't buy that Boys to Men ****)for I lament how it interrupts my education schedule. But I will not whine lyrical with the wrong facts and attempt to raise my child a Malaysian.
If you were a Singaporean, I suspect you have not served in a combat unit. Probably got away with an imaginary disease coined by your favourite family doctor.
No wonder you do not understand the true risks of NS.
Anyway,
Happy New Year to you, sir.
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30-01-2009, 12:53 PM
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3948
oh and by the way,if you're going to raise your son a malaysian,make sure he gets his PPL in Singapore,not Malaysia(Johor in particular).we wouldn't want him destroying any foliage whilst getting his PPL.
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30-01-2009, 02:11 PM
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3949
try telling NSF parents that their sons who died because of overturned 3-tonners during training would have been prone to dying in a vehicular accident in civilian life anyway. were these guys who died prone to maladies? just because we only hear of those who have died from medical problems in the papers doesn't mean that there are none who have died from exclusively military mishaps.
Anyway we are not here to debate NS. All I wanted to say was in response to your alter ego (the original Ronaldo?) that, sure, being a pilot is a risky job. But there are far riskier jobs for shittier pay. So if I could be a pilot, I definitely would. Don't care so much about the risk.
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30-01-2009, 02:15 PM
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3950
haha, that's a good one. hopefully he'll be getting it in perth, with SQ.
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30-01-2009, 03:35 PM
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yeah,no hard feelings alright.i was in the force for my NS term,controlling pilots from my air traffic control tower and it's enough **** having pilots boss around with their devil may care attitude in controlled airspace. but its even shittier to hear people outside the force glorify these complete idiots on the basis of their high pay. well i hope your son turns out to be a good pilot if he so decides to be one.cheers
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30-01-2009, 10:06 PM
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3955
Dear Anonymous,
It is cruel fact that most general public have a very negative impression on pilots' profession in particular. Salary too high most people will feel. But they forgot pilots do deserved to earn their attractive pay packages.
It does take episope like the below story, for the public to appreciate and recognise the profession as a Pilot, who made the miracle for passengers to walk away from any potential fatal crashes.
http://aircrewbuzz.com/2009/01/breaking-news-us-airways-a320-ditches.html
The most touching words from the passengers I recall .... this pilot's excellent flying skills prevented the passenger's wife from becoming a widow and children from becoming fatherless in a spilt second decision.
I rest my case. Cheers
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31-01-2009, 12:11 AM
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3956
hey, i am 16 this year. will be taking my 'O' levels in a few months time. i was thinking if anyone here in this forum is a shipbroker/charterer? Or is able to tell me info shipbroking/chartering? Like for example experiences, salary(both basic and how much bonus you earned), workload.. etc. also, the route taken to this career, what qualifications you possess.
thank you!
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31-01-2009, 01:03 AM
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3957
hey, i noticed that the diagnostic radiographer is not in the 2008 list anymore. It was #75 last year and seems to have disappeared.
Can anyone tell me the average pay a diagnostic radiographer gets?
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31-01-2009, 04:30 AM
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3958
David: Fully agree. If a pilot makes a wrong decision, he loses not just his own life but that of few hundred passengers. Pilots fully deserve that pay. Ministers, on the other hand, can lose a terrorist.... and nothing happens to them.
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03-02-2009, 09:02 PM
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3970
hi guys. i see somethings been boiling in this forum. lets not be sarcastic or boastful about salaries and stuff. we are here to discuss abt the salary queries, arent we? anyway, the economy has been really bad now and many have lost their jobs. lets be contented with your current jobs cuz ure lucky that u still have the job! happy cny =)
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