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25-01-2009, 06:46 PM
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High-Flyer Says:
October 13th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Folks, seems to me your jobs are just about earning pieces of papers to buy blocks of concrete
and metal pieces with wheels. I fly commercially for a living, and honestly, I would still do it for less money
Perks of the job are priceless: no boss, no meetings, travelling, girls, nice hotels, exotic food. Hell, work seems like holidaying, making off days so boring.
How valuable are pieces of money if you do not use them? How valuable are multiple properties if you can only sleep in one bed each night?
Thank goodness I am not in this crippling rat races of 'rich people'. Haha.
Well said High-flyer, all the very best and safe flying.
I fly VIPs commercially too with a global private firm. Cheers
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25-01-2009, 07:22 PM
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3920
Thanks David Seah;
Gong Xi Fa Cai to you, & safe flying too. You are certainly one of the few who understands that our lives are meant to be experienced, and not to be "consumed" just by quantifying it with money.
However, what the heck, I bet your income is not too bad yourself.
I wanted to shut some of the rats up, but I am glad you did it first. Will be flying off to Europe for a few days to tour & relax, so enjoy yourself, man.
Cheers
HighFlyer
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26-01-2009, 09:46 AM
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3925
Gong Xi Fa Cai High-flyer.
Enjoy your Europe tour, cold it is over there though. Just got back from Zurich too.
Cheers and happy holiday
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26-01-2009, 03:06 PM
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3926
Big deal...pot calling the kettle black...all these irony and paradox...yawn
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26-01-2009, 04:46 PM
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3927
Pilot is seriously a good job
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27-01-2009, 01:49 PM
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3932
Pilots are a good vocation except the occupational risks are high - lots of reports on plane crashes and unexected deaths
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30-01-2009, 02:57 AM
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3943
All jobs carry risk. I am no mathematician, but judging by the huge number of NSF deaths compared to only 2 singaporean pilot deaths throughout history (silkair), NSF is a much riskier job than pilot. But pilots get paid 20-30x more than NSF! So based on risk-reward ratio, pilot is definitely a much better job than any other vocation.
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30-01-2009, 09:26 AM
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3944
Dear Anonymous,your anecdotes are unneeded and are not the least bit useful anyway.
1.Your statistics on pilot deaths are grossly incorrect.
2.Silkair is not one of the many vocations that the RSAF offers so you err atrociously in your premise for comparing the salaries of the NSF and pilot. A NSF has a vocation because he has to fulfill certain obligations to earn his citizenship. A Combat pilot does what he does for a LIVING, not for his citizenship.
3.Your 'risk-reward' ratio is based on an essentially wrong basis for comparison, thus, your argument does not make sense.
4.Do not mislead us by using the terms 'vocation' and job interchangeably. Your sense of a vocation refers instinctively at the military sort. The playing field for a military job and a civilian job are the elements of completely different playing fields and you cannot slap your know-it-all comparisons on them just like that. A combat pilot (disregarding all seniority in rank because a NSF cannot attain this criteria unless he has spent some years languishing in DB) definitely does not earn 20-30x more than a NSF serving as a Combat Officer.
Wait,he doesn't even earn 20-30x more than the regular NSF(Rifleman) who holds the rank of a CPL in a combat vocation who brings home 400-500 per month.
To bring that one step further,are you even sure that a Combat Pilot earns 20-30x more than a freshly enlisted Army recruit?
May I enquire,where have you gotten your extravagant statistics from Mr Anecdotal Anonymous?
5.What is your point anyway?
So, do not wisen us with your motherhood statements.
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30-01-2009, 11:44 AM
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3946
Perhaps you didn't get the drift but I was referring to commercial pilots and not combat pilots. I only used the word "vocation" because that's what you used in your previous post (or are there two ronaldos here??)
About pilot risk: I know of only 2 commercial pilot deaths in the recent history of Singapore (Silkair MI 185). SQ6 pilots survived. However, there are at least half a dozen recruits who have died in recent years. True, flying is dangerous, but if the statistics are right, no more dangerous than serving NS.
All I'm saying is that in terms of risk-to-reward, I'd rather be a Malaysian pilot working for SQ making $271,888 per annum (http://www.salary.sg/2007/sq-pilots-pay/) than to be a Singaporean NSF making $6,000 per annum (wait, that's 45x.. I underestimated!) any day.
The fact that one has no choice but to be an NSF doesn't alter this. In fact, it makes being an NSF even more economically unattractive, as it is a job that is as risky as being a commercial pilot, pays 45x less and, worse still, even takes away your freedom to leave that job!
Point is, if I were to have a son, I'd make sure he was born in Malaysia, then pack him off to train as a pilot when he's 18. When he qualifies as a first officer at 21, he'll risk his life for $149,258 p.a. while his Singaporean NSF peers are risking theirs for $6,000 p.a.
No wise motherhood statements here.. just fatherhood principles, plain and simple.
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