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Old 22-04-2024, 10:13 AM
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Yes, my intention is to dismiss myths since from most comments here, most of you are still in the early stages of your careers. M3 = Year 3 Manager. It is not a very high rank, we still take meeting minutes (like interns) during BD work or Management meetings since we are the lowest ranked personnel.

I presume we are talking about the same person since she already left ACN, I was in her TD. 3 key outstanding things I rmbed:

1. Strong recommendation from both Projects (despite her a short stint in the 2nd)
2. Strong recommendation from her PL (as usual for most PLs) and other PLs who worked with her on either Projects (very rare for this to happen)
3. Concrete examples of her achievements which were not typical of As/SAs (eg led teams with interns, As, SAs and even Cs, created excel macro tools for Project to mass create test data, led triages with little support from leads, picked up new knowledge like WD very quickly, etc.)

While I am not a huge fan of the entire TD process, it does have some merits despite having “5 minutes of Fame” for 6-12 months of work. Just know that there is always “fairness” if one starts to view decisions from a higher perspective (eg business operator) while there always seem to be unfairness if one just views from an individual perspective. In other words, it is “fair” that we are all “playing” with the same “unfair” rules (as most comments seem to insinuate).

Hi Sir, while there may be some truth in what you’re saying it’s not entirely true that she’s that great to attain fast track for both ranks especially the part on SA to CL9 in a bad Financial year. To justify, I was part of the project and what I know is that her PL is her direct team manager who recommended her to WD bank project. She has been wanting to get out of the project FYI. Her PL who are friends with the manager in the other project probably put in good words for her & recommended her for promotion (which is why she got early promotion from A to SA and at the same time from SA to CL9). Friends will help one another to achieve the same objective.

Furthermore, triage/ UAT session there was a lot of help received from the technical manager (this is the legend that had helped out with any technical issues and has been in the project from the start but left ACN aldy, different person from her PL) and other Solution Architects. While it is true that she stayed back very often at work during her time with BT, the modules she was placed in-charged with have issues. And FYI she didn’t lead Consultant level, she only led interns & analyst/SAs (new joiner to the project thus no project knowledge). The macro she created did not test for all the use cases and failed at some of the use case but its fine as long as those use cases was omitted when using. Her modules that she were “in-charged” in has issues even when some of the PHIs has gone live. Poor souls in the project have to clean up part of the mess that was left by her now that she’s gone too after she took the promotion. Her stay in WD project is estimated to be around 6 months before promotion and 2 months later she left the company (total 8 mths) for whatever reason. Btw did I mention that her PL who recommended her for promotion will be getting out of BT to another project?

Promotions happened, left the project/ACN and other people have to clean up their mess. Things are not always as they seem. End of the day if you want promotion just perform slightly abv avg, better por management gao gao & if u girl it definitely helps

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Old 22-04-2024, 10:14 AM
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Thought she left the firm right after taking 2023 bonus?

Probably got a fat increment on top of L9 salary, she probably drawing ~ 5 digit monthly salary now already!
Can someone share where she is working at now?

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Old 22-04-2024, 10:26 AM
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Can someone share where she is working at now?
Not updated on linked in. Probably using bonus money and taking a good break now

She will be in for a major shock with this job market and with her skillset if really is what the other commentor mentioned

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Old 22-04-2024, 10:38 AM
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Not updated on linked in. Probably using bonus money and taking a good break now

She will be in for a major shock with this job market and with her skillset if really is what the other commentor mentioned
Maybe she managed to secure a job outside that can match CL9 pay or better leh? Maybe via connections again lo.

Want to say she can find a better job/match her current pay also hard to justify. Not even 3 years of working experience, Management skills confirm not there at a senior consultant level, technical skills also not there. Her VBA skills not Professional level, SAP debug skills only relevant to BT (Customized module), go outside find job only synapxe will want. No FI-CA/FI-CO, Billing module knowledge etc, WD skills probably just beginner given the short-time frame. GL to her


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M3 = Year 3 Manager. It’s really not a very high rank, fyi we still take meeting minutes during BD work like our intern days (since we are still the lowest rank lol).

If we are speaking about the same person (likely so), I was in her TD. Yes while her PL fought hard for her (as many PLs do), what stood out were (based on my foggy memory):

1. Her top few achievements in both Projects (with concrete examples) - things you would not expect A/SA to do
2. Strong CAI from both Projects and Project Managers (both were in the TD)
3. Shown huge potential to be performing as a L9 (eg, created tools to help the project, led teams of As, SAs and Cs, led triages from both Projects with little supervision, able to manage the client well, picked up new knowledge very quickly, etc.)

Do note in TDs, it’s really only “5 minutes of fame” for 6/12 months worth of work (tbh still not a huge fan of this process) - but just imagine how the PL and other PLs managed to convince her Pod Lead to give her that promotion slot in such a short time despite a hard year. Many of us could tell that she was definitely a high potential even without working directly with her. It was unfortunate for the firm that she left even after getting the promotion but from the timeline of events, it did not seem preventable. It’s really very difficult to know when someone will resign (and they could even be your “work bff”). you will learn/see this more often as you climb the corporate ladder since there are definitely great opportunities (but not necessarily great bosses) outside of ACN.
Lol going to call bs on this. Since when interns get involved in BD?
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Connection > contribution u made and the knowledge you own

That what I learn in accenture

ppl with connection are doing better than ppl who actually do stuff and know stuff in this firm
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GO LIVE > Roll off everyone to save their project budget

With so many people leaving and rolling off, the remaining people will have to do more....
literally treat human as used and dump trash in that project

No one care abt your career growth or whatever, once they squeeze whatever juice from you, and you have nothing to squeeze...

then it is time for you to roll off
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Do it and report back. Make sure they not married though don't be like some famous cases here hehe
heard story of some couple banging each other in the client office at the middle of the night
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Anyone worked with Christine low? What is she like
a lot of steamy story of her with her boss

It is obvious some guy have relationship with her in the office, which explain how she get promoted
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Not updated on linked in. Probably using bonus money and taking a good break now

She will be in for a major shock with this job market and with her skillset if really is what the other commentor mentioned
Can share her linkedin or her name>?

since nobody know who u r
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