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Old 10-07-2023, 07:10 PM
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If your main teaching subject is a humanities subject like history/geography with second CS being social studies, can you still go for cross deployment to primary schools? Will you have to teach a subject like say, English? How will you be trained to do this and is the training enough for you to become proficient in teaching this? Cause it’s like moving to new level and new subject.

If anyone has experience with this, would really appreciate it! Good to consider this option since many primary schools are high need schools with more KP roles available
I wouldn't say primary schools have more KP roles available. It's quite similar to the secondary school scene actually. In fact you have more people fighting for 1 role (Think of the number of history/geog teachers in your sch, fighting for the SH/HOD Humanities vs that of pri EL teachers).

That being said, if you're good at what you do, I think eventually you will be moved into leadership track. So good luck. There will be a period (a few weeks to 1 month+ can't really remember) that you will go for bridging courses, mostly to teach you pedagogy specific to primary schools, and some classroom mgt and ed psych also specific to pri schools.

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Anyone can relate to this? That every morning u wake up and you wonder why you are in teaching but you know if you resign there is no other routes. If need to change to a new job, it takes courage because it is going to be a steep learning curve.
And you would be envious or even jealous of those in private sectors who are who can move between companies and earning much more than you
you will need to look for ways to earn more then

and private sector is not really a bed of roses either

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Just curious, were you a KP when you post to HQ or become a KP through enhanced posting?
No, was a teacher when joining hq, then posted out via enhanced posting as KP

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Anyone can relate to this? That every morning u wake up and you wonder why you are in teaching but you know if you resign there is no other routes. If need to change to a new job, it takes courage because it is going to be a steep learning curve.
And you would be envious or even jealous of those in private sectors who are who can move between companies and earning much more than you
MOE is just one employer out of many. Just like how people in private sector can hop around, so can you. And please, everyone has to face steep learning curve whenever they hop into a new environment.

Teachers can hop from classroom to hq and do corporate roles. And like someone above mentioned, can even jump out of education related stuff and do completely different fields like HR. OPE got many interesting secondment opportunities to other organisations, to other stat boards and ministries. If still not contented with OPE, can look for internal job opportunities across the whole of public service too.

And no one stopping you from joining private sector also. It is up to you to define your career.

Almost every teacher has a degree, and everyone can choose to return to the sector they are trained in. Don't let yourself be trapped by self-limiting beliefs.
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No, was a teacher when joining hq, then posted out via enhanced posting as KP
Were you doing T&L related work in HQ?
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Do you all foresee that in 10 to 15 years time, the high positions in schools (SLs) and HQs, are going to be only PSCs? with maybe 1 or 2% left for the very capable and also 'lucky' non-scholars who may have contributed much more and are much more capable, but only missing out on the Public Service Scholarship.

With the amount of continual PSCs given out, the balance will be upset
In 2022, there were only 5 PSC scholars (teaching services). How will that small number annually be able to monopolise all the High level positions?


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MOE is just one employer out of many. Just like how people in private sector can hop around, so can you. And please, everyone has to face steep learning curve whenever they hop into a new environment.

Teachers can hop from classroom to hq and do corporate roles. And like someone above mentioned, can even jump out of education related stuff and do completely different fields like HR. OPE got many interesting secondment opportunities to other organisations, to other stat boards and ministries. If still not contented with OPE, can look for internal job opportunities across the whole of public service too.

And no one stopping you from joining private sector also. It is up to you to define your career.

Almost every teacher has a degree, and everyone can choose to return to the sector they are trained in. Don't let yourself be trapped by self-limiting beliefs.
This! There's so many secondment options nowadays. And the govt is also keen on pushing civil servants go certain occupations in the civil service such as nursing. The people who complain about being stuck in teaching have a terrible mindset.
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s://.straitstimes.com/singapore/what-is-the-point-singapore-has-more-quiet-quitters-than-global-average-survey-shows
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Is it true that independent schools promote seconded staff faster than MOE schools?
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s://.straitstimes.com/singapore/what-is-the-point-singapore-has-more-quiet-quitters-than-global-average-survey-shows
Will be interesting to find out the % of teachers in each school that are already quiet quitters, one way or another.
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