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Old 21-09-2015, 04:42 PM
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i think the key differece between a SIM student and one from a proper university is that one is paid for with money (no effort required), and the other is earned.

and i can empathise with paying for something, its just like if i walk and buy the latest IWC watch vs one that is given to me.

obviously, i would have more pride over what i paid for - after all i'm paying for it.

now this explains why SIM students feel the need to brand themselves as UOL/LSE/RMIT etc. and it boils down to the fact that since they are paying for it, brand matters.

what they fail to realise is that these institutions are a far cry from their fairy tale world. for starters, the courses run by SIM are not even available in UOL - they distinguish what is distant learning vs on campus.

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Old 21-09-2015, 06:27 PM
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lol why are you guys arguing over these little things..

when i first came out to work..

- i never sold myself as a direct product from LSE, but instead a distant learning UOL grad under SIM
- i got a FCH with 'gold' award, but this much is nothing compared to the FCH from local Us. I acknowledged that fact and not keep harping on it during interviews since its already stated there in my CV.
- realistic in my market worth.. no internships, no stellar results to compete with local grads on equal footing, no other connections. I started off with a contract job in a bank drawing 2.5 base
- a lot of opportunities were given to my former boss at the first bank i worked at. when i moved to another bank at the end of my contract, my former boss helped me to put in some good word since he know the hiring mgr as well.
- A lot of opportunities were given to me by my former line mgr then. I've since moved on to another bank (third) earlier this year...

Not gonna state any numbers here since some of you would probably say im bluffing.. But i'd say the figures are above the market rate for someone who only has barely 3yrs of experience even for local grads, and i am happy with the progress since i am just a 'filthy' SIM grad.

For students who are going to grad soon, be realistic in your demands. And no matter how you argue, SIM-UOL or whatever other distant learning progs from xyz uni, will be frowned upon at your initial job search when you dont have any bargaining chips on your hand.

To those who are bashing, there's some hard truths in what you've said. But for those who are just out to keyboard-bash SIM grads, c'mon la... Really nothing to do? Cut them some slack lah, don't need to go all out and put them down..



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i think the key differece between a SIM student and one from a proper university is that one is paid for with money (no effort required), and the other is earned.
congrats. with this sweeping statement of yours, you've just offended the entire cohort of students taking part-time night courses after work at the local UniSIM.

maybe u are superman and dont feel tired / require any effort to rush down to uni campus after your work ends (Y)

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congrats. with this sweeping statement of yours, you've just offended the entire cohort of students taking part-time night courses after work at the local UniSIM.

maybe u are superman and dont feel tired / require any effort to rush down to uni campus after your work ends (Y)
well, ultimately they know deep down inside somewhere, that this is just a business transaction.

you pay and you get a dodgy cert.

no effort required. despite what you think, exams and assignements in SIM are of the same standards that nus/smu/ntu.
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congrats. with this sweeping statement of yours, you've just offended the entire cohort of students taking part-time night courses after work at the local UniSIM.

maybe u are superman and dont feel tired / require any effort to rush down to uni campus after your work ends (Y)
You can always enrol into NUS or NTU part time degree.
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Hello all! Graduate with a 2:2 honors degree from uol. Was offered a $2600 per month salary (Finance industry, fresh grad), it is reasonable or too low? Need some advice on expected pay. Thank you!
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Hello all! Graduate with a 2:2 honors degree from uol. Was offered a $2600 per month salary (Finance industry, fresh grad), it is reasonable or too low? Need some advice on expected pay. Thank you!
Slightly on the high side for a pte 2:2 cert, most offers are 2.3-2.5k for uol. Any aws? Bonus how much roughly?
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Slightly on the high side for a pte 2:2 cert, most offers are 2.3-2.5k for uol. Any aws? Bonus how much roughly?
There is aws, bonus varies.
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2.1 Business from UOL can put expected how much?
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2.1 Business from UOL can put expected how much?
Nobody in pte sector care about 1/2.1/2.2 UOL honors. Starting should be 2.3-2.5k in most cases; banks might be slightly higher, but since they don't give 13 month end up total package the same.
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