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Old 14-01-2021, 05:38 PM
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Gumxia now this is nice new. Human sometimes abit greedy HAHAHA. I mean this is pretty close to my dream job. pay wise I confirm lower than my colleagues, but my colleagues very experienced. Im thankful I have I have a job that I like, pays very well and is what I want to do.
yes, if we are taking about the same company, then the colleagues are very experienced. Most of them fished from other big tech companies so their pay sure damn high, but they have the know-how to back it up. I'm happy with my high pay, but even happier that I can learn so much from them. Hope you can find those opportunities too.

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Old 14-01-2021, 08:08 PM
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I'm a sme business owner and we have hired fresh grad before. We can't compete with brand multinational corporation so we usually give them higher pay to lure some.. If they can't develop, we will let them go...

In the past, we got a few caliber one. None of them are FCH. Just humble hardworking developer.
In return we give them space to work their craft. And eventually we have them higher increment eg 10% to 15% increment to retain them since it will cost us more to hire and train new people...

But recently fresh grad are asking for 5k which is ridiculous because we can easily find 2 to 3 years experienced developers for only 4k. But becuaae of recent employment pass policy change (due to covid) it is 4.5k.

So 4.5k for a foreigner with 5 years working experience. Portfolio of their work.
Or a 5k fresh grad with no experience but just nice cert from nus.

No brainer. But because of the high cost. We are slowly moving all our development work to India...
No choice. We can't sustain. Its too expensive.

So we are comprising quality and control but at fraction of the cost.
Tech industry is only for the fabulous.
bro, 5k for fresh grad is 5 years ago la

u should just outsource overseas and travel there once a month;
many company do dev work outside singapore if they don't have tax rebates

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I'm disheartened I applied for the same program as my classmates NUS comp Sci

I'm FCH.
He's 2nd upper.

He got the job.
I didn't.

My interview consists of technical programming assignments and interview.
His only verbal interview.

Yes the job position is different. But I have better education. Better cert. Better qualification.
And more tedious interview process.

He got the job.
I didn't.

Whoever thinks FCH has it easy in life, you're dead wrong.
We worked twice as hard if not more to be successful.

Yet more often than not people see us as a threat to their intellectual ability.
Oh well, time to try for another position

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I'm disheartened I applied for the same program as my classmates NUS comp Sci

I'm FCH.
He's 2nd upper.

He got the job.
I didn't.

My interview consists of technical programming assignments and interview.
His only verbal interview.

Yes the job position is different. But I have better education. Better cert. Better qualification.
And more tedious interview process.

He got the job.
I didn't.

Whoever thinks FCH has it easy in life, you're dead wrong.
We worked twice as hard if not more to be successful.

Yet more often than not people see us as a threat to their intellectual ability.
Oh well, time to try for another position
If you want the easy life, you should apply for his position.

Since your position have a different job scope and prospect, of course the hiring criteria is different.

Another thing to consider is starting salary.

If you are asking way more than him, then it make sense for the company to hire the cheaper worker with a similar quality.
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Old 15-01-2021, 09:43 AM
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If you want the easy life, you should apply for his position.

Since your position have a different job scope and prospect, of course the hiring criteria is different.

Another thing to consider is starting salary.

If you are asking way more than him, then it make sense for the company to hire the cheaper worker with a similar quality.
Or be a women in tech
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Or be a women in tech
Woman can code meh?
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Old 15-01-2021, 10:16 AM
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Today I have a demo session to show my code progress.

But I can't finish.
So I took mc.

My boss just called me tell me to rest but the team still née to see the demo next Monday.
I told her I'm sick can't possibly code today. Drowsy medicine..

She said I have Saturday and Sunday.
She also say she will schedule the demo at the end of Monday so I also have Monday.

I'm like erm "am I supposed to work on the weekend."
She said "you been working on this task for 3 month if you can show us any progress, we can't pass your probation"

I'm like "what probation?"
She said "don't you know the first 3 months of the job is probation."

I said "but I already sign the contract as perm staff"
She said. "we will see. Get some rest"

I'm so disturbed now.
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Today I have a demo session to show my code progress.

But I can't finish.
So I took mc.

My boss just called me tell me to rest but the team still née to see the demo next Monday.
I told her I'm sick can't possibly code today. Drowsy medicine..

She said I have Saturday and Sunday.
She also say she will schedule the demo at the end of Monday so I also have Monday.

I'm like erm "am I supposed to work on the weekend."
She said "you been working on this task for 3 month if you can show us any progress, we can't pass your probation"

I'm like "what probation?"
She said "don't you know the first 3 months of the job is probation."

I said "but I already sign the contract as perm staff"
She said. "we will see. Get some rest"

I'm so disturbed now.
Must be women in tech
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Old 15-01-2021, 10:41 AM
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I'm disheartened I applied for the same program as my classmates NUS comp Sci

I'm FCH.
He's 2nd upper.

He got the job.
I didn't.

My interview consists of technical programming assignments and interview.
His only verbal interview.

Yes the job position is different. But I have better education. Better cert. Better qualification.
And more tedious interview process.

He got the job.
I didn't.

Whoever thinks FCH has it easy in life, you're dead wrong.
We worked twice as hard if not more to be successful.

Yet more often than not people see us as a threat to their intellectual ability.
Oh well, time to try for another position
stop giving yourself excuses. a setback only and you start with the im FCH i work harder so i deserve it will not get you anywhere. Do better at your interview next time
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Old 15-01-2021, 10:43 AM
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Today I have a demo session to show my code progress.

But I can't finish.
So I took mc.

My boss just called me tell me to rest but the team still née to see the demo next Monday.
I told her I'm sick can't possibly code today. Drowsy medicine..

She said I have Saturday and Sunday.
She also say she will schedule the demo at the end of Monday so I also have Monday.

I'm like erm "am I supposed to work on the weekend."
She said "you been working on this task for 3 month if you can show us any progress, we can't pass your probation"

I'm like "what probation?"
She said "don't you know the first 3 months of the job is probation."

I said "but I already sign the contract as perm staff"
She said. "we will see. Get some rest"

I'm so disturbed now.
Get wrecked.
My company does the same too. Yes we pay those fresh grad ridiculous 5k starting pay.
But we expect senior quality work.

The same we use the 3 months probation clause mom to terminate them if they cent perform
All this kids. Think you get a high paid job that's the end of it.

Boy, it's just a start or endless time you have to step up and prove your worth.
Can't do? Quit. We have a fresh bunch of fresh grad next year to recruit who is willing to work overtime for 5k.

And no, even Facebook or Google they terminate their staff if they breach contract like nda or take phooey o or post hate social media post. Etc.

Ours not to that degree. Just very simple.
If you can't deliver the work, get Terminated.

Your peers with average pay the company more humane.
We can't. We have high paying consumer who demand result.
We pay you high also demand result.

Get wrecked boy. Hahaha. Love it.


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