Comp Science Frsh Grad Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So little? I'm getting 10k per month. So it's 120k base +aws + bonus.
But I have to be 24/7 support.

how much stock u getting?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i ask for 7k only but i had pending offer due the nxt day. So my guess is the recruiting team yolo and decided to give me an offer i cannot reject

Really cannot reject. Gratz gratz. I also find if u got smth to leverage they pay you higher.
Ty for responding.
I got lesser base and no rsu.
Your role is SWE?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I think your friend must be those who cannot make it. Can't code. Can't do much. End up just do paperwork support requirement. Those job just do to fulfill audit.

Need to pay so high pay for software developer to write requirements spec? What a joke. Your friend.

you really need to know the difference between pm and dev lol

Originally Posted by Unregistered

pls learn how to list your functional requirement properly. its a basic skill of any fresh cs grad

Fresh Cs grad ah. This shows you are so fresh you never work in tech before.

Your customer. Either external or internal are not tech people.
Most of the time it will be you go into meeting room they just bla bla want this want that.
The rest is YOUR job to figure it out.

Aka the functional requirement is you type out.jf you ask user to provide they will just type what they think.
E.g app can transfer money. That's all they know. The specifics transfer from what account. Interr bank can? Got fee? How to handle error fallback? Need to store report log or not...

All this is YOUr job to figure out. Whether you want to use mutex or synchronisation context. Or async code. Or save to databse or if too slow. Store in redis first. Or pump it out to a scalable message queue so another service will process it? Fault tolerant? Repayable... How you design it is your experienced.. And skills.

Not user give you all the requirement to teach you how to code.
Oh dear. This is the type of dumb fresh grad Singapore produce.

Even if you are fch type our all the detailed requinenrds that you can think off.uoir user will not read. Say why so much details. Don't understand so can't sign off the requirement.

Ask you to dumb it down to basic requirement.

Need diagram picture etc.
After you spend all that time. Their requirement change. Or too expensive.
So we pay you 5k so much to do pointless paper work.

Delusional fresh grad thinking tech job is high paid glamorous.
It's long hours. Insuffient details. Unknown risk. Bug. Can't work. Why can't work. Must work. No time.
Pressure from customer. Bug. Test. Fix. Rework.forget the code do what. Read code.. Don't know how to woeife the code. Not sure how to do it....

Nobody in the actual working tech world is bothered with Requiment other than just to collect payment. Cause this phase delivered liao...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Really cannot reject. Gratz gratz. I also find if u got smth to leverage they pay you higher.
Ty for responding.
I got lesser base and no rsu.
Your role is SWE?

ya backend.. i know someone got 70k and no rsu.. if they lowball u might as well go somewhere else (viki, grab, bytedance, etc)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

ya backend.. i know someone got 70k and no rsu.. if they lowball u might as well go somewhere else (viki, grab, bytedance, etc)

LOL I got offered 72k with 3mths bonus(not guaranteed). I took the job cause my other offers paid wayy lower and it was exactly what I wanted to do. how do I tell HR i want rsu? LOLOL

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Fresh Cs grad ah. This shows you are so fresh you never work in tech before.

Your customer. Either external or internal are not tech people.
Most of the time it will be you go into meeting room they just bla bla want this want that.
The rest is YOUR job to figure it out.

Aka the functional requirement is you type out.jf you ask user to provide they will just type what they think.
E.g app can transfer money. That's all they know. The specifics transfer from what account. Interr bank can? Got fee? How to handle error fallback? Need to store report log or not...

All this is YOUr job to figure out. Whether you want to use mutex or synchronisation context. Or async code. Or save to databse or if too slow. Store in redis first. Or pump it out to a scalable message queue so another service will process it? Fault tolerant? Repayable... How you design it is your experienced.. And skills.

Not user give you all the requirement to teach you how to code.
Oh dear. This is the type of dumb fresh grad Singapore produce.

Even if you are fch type our all the detailed requinenrds that you can think off.uoir user will not read. Say why so much details. Don't understand so can't sign off the requirement.

Ask you to dumb it down to basic requirement.

Need diagram picture etc.
After you spend all that time. Their requirement change. Or too expensive.
So we pay you 5k so much to do pointless paper work.

Delusional fresh grad thinking tech job is high paid glamorous.
It's long hours. Insuffient details. Unknown risk. Bug. Can't work. Why can't work. Must work. No time.
Pressure from customer. Bug. Test. Fix. Rework.forget the code do what. Read code.. Don't know how to woeife the code. Not sure how to do it....

Nobody in the actual working tech world is bothered with Requiment other than just to collect payment. Cause this phase delivered liao...

In a real tech company where fresh grads are indeed offered 6-7k, usually the requirements are defined by business teams, then product teams, then handed down to SWEs to see if its feasible (we do tech design, estimate resource, design sys arch etc). If not feasaible, we explain and try to reach a middle ground. Then we start development.

If a company can't afford to separate job scopes to business & product teams to handle clients and settle external requirements, and then internal requirements with dev / infra team, then obviously they can't afford to pay 6-7k...

And if you are from SME and have to handle everything yourself (like what you mentioned), your company obviously can't pay 6-7k for fresh grads, and shouldn't.

So I don't see what's so hard about accepting fresh grads at proper tech companies are already earning 1.5/2x experienced devs in SMEs..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

LOL I got offered 72k with 3mths bonus(not guaranteed). I took the job cause my other offers paid wayy lower and it was exactly what I wanted to do. how do I tell HR i want rsu? LOLOL

eh i also got offered same as you (72k and pb of 1-3mths). I heard RSU during your appraisal then decided cause you fresh grad, need see performance.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

LOL I got offered 72k with 3mths bonus(not guaranteed). I took the job cause my other offers paid wayy lower and it was exactly what I wanted to do. how do I tell HR i want rsu? LOLOL

Already accepted then cant lo. Find another job and renege or jump to another coy after 1 year.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

eh i also got offered same as you (72k and pb of 1-3mths). I heard RSU during your appraisal then decided cause you fresh grad, need see performance.

Gumxia now this is nice new. Human sometimes abit greedy HAHAHA. I mean this is pretty close to my dream job. pay wise I confirm lower than my colleagues, but my colleagues very experienced. Im thankful I have I have a job that I like, pays very well and is what I want to do.