ST Electronics

#**3091** (**permalink**) 06-09-2022, 09:25 AM

I was just promoted to principal engineer in Sept 2022 reorg.
Its M2.
Who says its M3? HR try to cheat my pay is it.

#**3092** (**permalink**) 06-09-2022, 10:25 AM

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Wah like this means my colleague jumped from M1 to M4 and she bluffs us la.
She was assistant principal engineer confirmed its M1. Then big boss pulled her up to principal engineer during covid.
Now post covid her title is senior manager means she promoted to M4?

Can like that one meh.
From M1 to M4 in 3 years?

If boss likes her and if there is business requirements, it's possible.

#**3093** (**permalink**) 06-09-2022, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

it seems like the ranks are not clear and quite messy depending on different BU. I am M2, and my title in Org chart is Principal Engineer. My RO is M3 Senior Principal Engineer.

My old BU M2 is Principal Engineer. M3 is of manager appointment already. You won't see "Principal Engineer" but "Manager" instead.

#**3094** (**permalink**) 07-09-2022, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

I was just promoted to principal engineer in Sept 2022 reorg.
Its M2.
Who says its M3? HR try to cheat my pay is it.

E5 - Engineer
E6 - Snr Engineer
M1 - Asst Principal Engineer / Asst Manager
M2 - Principal Engineer / Manager
M3 - Snr Principal Engineer / Snr Manager / Director
M4 - AVP / Director
M5 - VP

#**3095** (**permalink**) 07-09-2022, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

I was just promoted to principal engineer in Sept 2022 reorg.
Its M2.
Who says its M3? HR try to cheat my pay is it.

Who really care the title while the job like ****

#**3096** (**permalink**) 07-09-2022, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Who really care the title while the job like ****

Stupid.
M3 pay range is different from M2.
Stupid.
Yeah same **** so $ must be more

#**3097** (**permalink**) 07-09-2022, 04:40 PM

As mentioned, HR trying to inflate the title which is not aligned to the payscale.

Give you M2 payscale, with M3 Title, basically try to cut cost by underpaying you

#**3098** (**permalink**) 07-09-2022, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Stupid.
M3 pay range is different from M2.
Stupid.
Yeah same **** so $ must be more

Then suck thumb lor

#**3099** (**permalink**) 08-09-2022, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

E4 - Asst Engineer / Engineering Assistant
E5 - Engineer
E6 - Snr Engineer
M1 - Asst Principal Engineer / Asst Manager
M2 - Asst Principal Engineer / Asst Manager
M3 - Principal Engineer / Manager
M4 - Snr Principal Engineer / Snr Manager
M5 - Director

This is the official since 2007.
The rest is inflation of title.

What is the pay range for each grade?
Bonus structure?

#**3100** (**permalink**) 08-09-2022, 09:30 AM

Why you all care so much about title. Tbh, the pay is more important. In ST the salary range is very big so a E6 can also be drawing more than a manager.

Somemore, nobody really care about your rank in the company anyway, there so many self proclaimed title in the officer. Alot of E5 or E6 who stuck in the same rank for 3-5 year will start to give themself make up title like system manager, project manager,lead developer...... Etc

My department culture is very bad. The manager alway delay project and only start to schedule the project when they cannot delay the project anymore so when we are alway fighting fire when we are deployed to the field. That why, my department got OT is very common due to the bad management.

Then when OT, you will start to envy poly hire cos they are paid for their ot and also double pay during weekend and holiday. Degree holder... Come back work for free and same hr