Compare civil service salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not official, but my sensing is:

Tier 1: MFA, EDB, MAS
Tier 2: MTI, Govtech, Mindef, ESG
Tier 3: The remaining ministries
Tier 4: Most statboards, like NLB, PA, NParks....

Mindef is tier 2???

Spot on. No need to add on.

For the other guy who is "earning 240K and not even in mid-tier management", heartiest congratulations to u, and pls stay where u are. Can't afford to hire such a high-calibre person like you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I can guarantee you that unless you have a very niche skill or intimately know someone in very senior management, you will not be able to simply switch to civil service at this mid/senior level.

you think they will suka suka want to get someone from outside? then the social compact that they have with their employees on years of service/loyalty/progression gets chucked out the window, not to mention the pathway for scholars.

Everyone will want to work themselves up in the private sector and then jump to the civil service for stability once they hit a high $ amount otherwise

Hello, I know performance grades do not automatically affect potential ranking, but does getting higher grades like B or even A help when ranking panel is considering?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not official, but my sensing is:

Tier 1: MFA, EDB, MAS
Tier 2: MTI, Govtech, Mindef, ESG
Tier 3: The remaining ministries
Tier 4: Most statboards, like NLB, PA, NParks....

actually, this tier system does not exist...only different services/schemes exist in the Ministry and SB...

if you wanna sort them, this is my 2cts

Tier 1: Administrative

Tier 2: MFA/Foreign Service, MinLaw/Legal Service, MTI/Economist Service, MTI/Statistician, MOH/Medical Services

Tier 3: MAS, Govtech, MCI/Cybersecurity Professional Scheme, MOE/Education Service, Accounting Profession, Auditing Service

Tier 4: Management Executive Scheme (SB scheme usually map over)

tier 1 - ~5% of govt - PS/DS/CE/DCE/ED/MD etc
tier 2 - ~10% of govt - very very niche skillset
tier 3 - ~25% of govt - very nich skillset
tier 4 - ~60% of govt - Generalist and some nich skillset

EDB and ESG do more on the marketing and by meeting KPI provides the staff more corp bonus la... the work-life balance is damn bad..

MHA/Home Affairs Services, Mindef/Uniform - technically not consider part of govt.
all this info can be found in the budget websites

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ok so what I gathered so far (in this forum/peers and myself) is a guage of total comp:

~100k for late twenties

~150k for mid thirties

Is it around 200k in late thirties to forties? Or it stagnates around 150k for farmers?

this is far far far higher than average

generally should be just like this :
mid thirties 100k
mid forties 130k
retire at 150 to 180k

Originally Posted by Unregistered

this is far far far higher than average

generally should be just like this :
mid thirties 100k
mid forties 130k
retire at 150 to 180k

I'm a farmer in specialist scheme at a SB, making 100K approaching late 20s

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I can guarantee you that unless you have a very niche skill or intimately know someone in very senior management, you will not be able to simply switch to civil service at this mid/senior level.

you think they will suka suka want to get someone from outside? then the social compact that they have with their employees on years of service/loyalty/progression gets chucked out the window, not to mention the pathway for scholars.

Everyone will want to work themselves up in the private sector and then jump to the civil service for stability once they hit a high $ amount otherwise

Nowadays EDB likes to do mid career hires. Know a few people who got in that way. Grinding doesn't mean you will get promoted. Those hentak kaki will leave if they can. Scholars don't really have special pathway unless you are parachuted from Admin Service or similar. Can't comment on rest of PS.

Some people do jump over for stability and compensation reasons because they can be pretty competitive especially if they need your skillset.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm a farmer in specialist scheme at a SB, making 100K approaching late 20s

lmao what a frikkin troll get a life please and get out of the forums

Originally Posted by Unregistered

lmao what a frikkin troll get a life please and get out of the forums

How is this trolling?

Feels bad man all the high flyers here. 1 year work experience with NS, only getting around 50k annual package.