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22-02-2022, 09:08 AM
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I'm working at a top local liti firm, and your role still sounds amazing lol. But most inhouse work is for Corp rather than Liti, how you change one lol.
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It's not as difficult to jump from liti to inhouse as most people think. Actually, moving when you're junior is better since your salary expectations are lower, so the prospect of matching their budget is higher. No matter how experienced you are as a litigator, it doesn't translate directly to relevant exp in the hirers' eyes for in-house so you're better off leaving early.
There are actually a ton of slack inhouse roles around even in good companies. Many of your friends have probably landed these roles though they would probably not broadcast the fact that they're relaxing half the time. Switching from billiable work to business support or business-as-usual role, changes the very nature of the job and its hours. Fire drills are rare, unlike private practice where you're fighting a bushfire every other Friday.
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22-02-2022, 09:20 AM
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If corp is so **** then why so many people still go corp
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22-02-2022, 09:21 AM
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Correction: If lit is so **** then why so many people still go liti
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22-02-2022, 09:30 AM
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Lmao drop this stupid liti vs corp debate. It's as pointless as arguing about overseas vs local unis. Past a certain point, it's apples & oranges.
It's trite to everyone who's applied for TCs that there are more liti roles than corp. Corp teams are more selective, while there's an abundance of liti roles in big and small firms.
That said, I believe good litigators are born not made. At the top end, the best litigators are extremely sharp and bright with incredible mental stamina i.e. SCs and High Court judge material. If you're middling, liti is a slog, both as a junior, and as a partner struggling to build your book.
Corp has the advantage of a wealth of exit options, not merely inhouse but adjacent roles in the industries they service too. Liti is more limited.
Find what aligns with your aptitude and interests.
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22-02-2022, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
There’s a reason why you only ever hear of people switching from liti to corp and never the other way round. Anyone who suggests that corp is even remotely at the level of lawyering and stress and quick thinking as litigation is either someone who has never practiced or a corporate lawyer who is butthurt by reality.
Not in those areas but those in family and criminal law are especially stressed and overworked given the nature of the work and stakes involved. Very commendable work but rewards not commensurate with effort and stress.
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Sounds like you got stuck in a small firm family law practice and are trying to console yourself by putting down small firm corporate lawyers. lmfao
Imagine if a boutique corporate associate came in and started trashtalking Chinatown law firms. Equally as sad.
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22-02-2022, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Sounds like you got stuck in a small firm family law practice and are trying to console yourself by putting down small firm corporate lawyers. lmfao
Imagine if a boutique corporate associate came in and started trashtalking Chinatown law firms. Equally as sad.
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Not him or her, but I assume you’re not a corp lawyer at all given your clear lack of ability to notice details. He or she very clearly said he or she doesn’t do criminal or family work, making it close to impossible that he or she is in a small Chinatown law firm which necessarily dabbles if not specializes in that.
Geez. The standards nowadays.
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22-02-2022, 12:25 PM
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Not him or her, but I assume you’re not a corp lawyer at all given your clear lack of ability to notice details. He or she very clearly said he or she doesn’t do criminal or family work, making it close to impossible that he or she is in a small Chinatown law firm which necessarily dabbles if not specializes in that.
Geez. The standards nowadays.
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Because everything you read on the net is the truth and taken at face value?
Incoming butthurt litigation lawyers who can never make it into Magic Circle or White Shoe firms.
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22-02-2022, 12:30 PM
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Who gets paid more liti or corp lawyers?
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22-02-2022, 12:41 PM
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Who gets paid more liti or corp lawyers?
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Corp by and large.
But if you make it to SC-level, then liti (but then again, corp global heads / managing partners make serious bank at that level too and might still earn more).
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22-02-2022, 12:46 PM
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From what I've gathered from this forum, what good is liti if it has less pay + more stress lmao
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