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Old 22-01-2022, 01:34 AM
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Lol confirm not in law or some cheapo partner that refuse to raise past 6k trying to "justify" his cheaponess LOLOL.

Hello, even if you give the NQ a small % of the files they deserve more than 6k. The partners do not deserve 90-95% of the billable on the files.

Somemore, the high turnover is caused by the lower pay. It is exactly because there is "high turnover" that you should be spending more to attract talent. It's like saying eh high turnover, let's let the whole industry go to ****... don't do anything to mitigate the loss.

I can use your goondu thinking for any industry sia.. I can even use the inverse.

Eh high turnover for (insert industry here), so no need high pay la.. they gonna run soon, dunnit pay higher.

Eh low turnover for (insert industry here), means they satisfied with the pay, dunnit pay higher.

Then when you pay higher? When there is high-low turnover or low-high turnover? Or you want a perfect 50-50 balance first then can raise?
Actually, what's in it for firms to raise pay sia? which firms wanna play Buddha or Jesus to save the ailing legal industry. I think should increase those with PQE 5+ years coz they tahan like mad.

Aiya in this era, who still charge by hourly bill aside from our industry and tutors? Imagine ur cai png auntie charge u by hourly rate on the time she uses to prepare your food. Or if your secondary schl/JC charge u by hourly rate, i think you hongan liao

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Old 22-01-2022, 01:40 AM
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Actually, what's in it for firms to raise pay sia? which firms wanna play Buddha or Jesus to save the ailing legal industry. I think should increase those with PQE 5+ years coz they tahan like mad.

Aiya in this era, who still charge by hourly bill aside from our industry and tutors? Imagine ur cai png auntie charge u by hourly rate on the time she uses to prepare your food. Or if your secondary schl/JC charge u by hourly rate, i think you hongan liao
Lol Buddha and Jesus. No such thing in the legal industry la. Don't expect compassion from the partners eh.

There is just that much money a firm can earn in a year. Everyone wanna take a piece of the pie. If the firms increase your pay, that means somewhere else, they need to cut the budget. A zero sum game unless you get more clients lor. but now even clients not willing pay much and use excuse like "oh got COVID", "oh if you cannot agree with XXX dollars, I switch firms liao".

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Old 22-01-2022, 01:55 AM
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Hours are late as expected for law firm I guess, but does anyone know if the bosses are verbally abusive, etc? The department is especially notorious among all the litigation groups in wongp and donít seem to understand why
Given the sensitivity you should ask around. I personally don't know the answers

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Old 22-01-2022, 02:02 AM
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does anyone know about WONGP SPC? heard alot of mixed reviews but is it really that bad
They have super high turnover.. out of all the depts, they have the most leavers. Therefore, they are almost always recruiting.

Draw your own conclusions.
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They have super high turnover.. out of all the depts, they have the most leavers. Therefore, they are almost always recruiting.

Draw your own conclusions.
Thanks for your honesty, I have concluded.
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Old 22-01-2022, 10:04 AM
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Any advice for transferring internally? Will your boss blacklist you or is it a common occurance?
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Old 22-01-2022, 10:51 AM
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Why do so many assocs in their late 20s already have grey hair?
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Old 22-01-2022, 11:57 AM
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New US salary war liao. Milbank just up NQ pay to USD$215k.

Singapore NQ salary raise when??
International firms in SG that pay on Cravath also increase?
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Old 22-01-2022, 12:09 PM
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Actually, what's in it for firms to raise pay sia? which firms wanna play Buddha or Jesus to save the ailing legal industry. I think should increase those with PQE 5+ years coz they tahan like mad.

Aiya in this era, who still charge by hourly bill aside from our industry and tutors? Imagine ur cai png auntie charge u by hourly rate on the time she uses to prepare your food. Or if your secondary schl/JC charge u by hourly rate, i think you hongan liao
Someone here asked this question before, framed differently - what is the value you bring that the firm must remunerate you thus.

No one here could answer it apart from "just because". And everyone somehow got very upset when pressed on the value point, because they all seemed to think money grows out of thin air
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Any thoughts on dating in the profession? Iíve dated quite a few in the profession and always found those in the profession to be quite demanding and ridiculously high maintenance. Iíve only dated one outside the profession so frankly I donít have enough of a sample size for comparison but wonder if itís just my luck. Am asking because thereís someone I know who I think is really really hot but Iím also concerned about my past experiences.
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