Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

OP here once again. To further prove my point above that it is well-settled that law students have had the chance of benefiting from an in-house internship (and that the only way in is NOT just to go in after years of practice), and to persist in progressing this discussion in answering of my question above - for the benefit of all law students interested:

You can't tell me that:

1. Working at Tiger Airways wouldn't enable you to gain legal and commercial experience/understanding in asset/aviation finance/law.

2. Working at AON wouldn't enable you to gain legal and commercial experience/understanding in insurance brokerage/laws.

3. Working at Aramco wouldn't enable you to gain legal and commercial experience/understanding in oil and gas/project development/project finance/laws.

4. Working at Pavilion Capital wouldn't enable you to gain legal and commercial experience/understanding in fund formation/structuring/corporate laws.

1) You can gain legal and commercial experience/understanding in asset/aviation finance/law, just not as much as working in a law firm that specializes in this field.

2) You can gain legal and commercial experience/understanding in oil and gas/project development/project finance/laws, just not as much as working in a law firm that specializes in this field.

3) You can gain legal and commercial experience/understanding in oil and gas/project development/project finance/laws, just not as much as working in a law firm that specializes in this field.

4) You can gain legal and commercial experience/understanding in fund formation/structuring/corporate laws, just not as much as working in a law firm that specializes in this field.

Mans tryna prove a point to people he asked for advice from on an anonymous forum, who probably worked in the industry for years or decades and has more legal experience in their left nut than his entire existence.

i love this forum

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Mans tryna prove a point to people he asked for advice from on an anonymous forum, who probably worked in the industry for years or decades and has more legal experience in their left nut than his entire existence.

i love this forum

To be fair, he's putting good points while you're just bashing him without substance. At least he puts out substance lol

Personally, I'm interested to hear more on this discussion

I didn't know there were so many in-house internships available for nus/smu kids lol

What is the current monthly/annual benchmark for pay for fresh grads in legal service/big 4? Researching now since the expected salary will be a conversation during the hiring process, would like to hear some thoughts

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What is the current monthly/annual benchmark for pay for fresh grads in legal service/big 4? Researching now since the expected salary will be a conversation during the hiring process, would like to hear some thoughts

Just read through SILE's consultation paper for the implementation of the new admission regime

It does not address pay at all? Are firms going to pay the same shitty pay for all 12 months of the PTC?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just read through SILE's consultation paper for the implementation of the new admission regime

It does not address pay at all? Are firms going to pay the same shitty pay for all 12 months of the PTC?

As far as the PTC goes it's probably not surprising if the pay stays the same for all 12 months without any external nudge from Lawsoc etc.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

However, my point was not that. My point was on doing a stint (e.g. 3 months/6 months in-house, akin to a client secondment seat in the E&W TC programme) to which you will pick up commercial skills and understanding beyond (or more fully integrated with) legal, and communication/process management with the other functions in the company, which you can then bring back with you when you return to private practice (yes, more likely with an int'l firm than local firm) and then proceed to being a solid associate/SA who can resonate better with clients.

Ok yes. We don't disagree with your points, broadly speaking. This route can be useful for a fledging lawyer. It certainly won't be detrimental.

So go and find an arrangement that allows you to do such an in-house stint and thereafter bring your 6 month in-house experience back to private practice?

Not sure why you're trying so hard to convince us here about the merits of such a route? If you're so convinced that this route is advantageous and worth pursing on the merits, then just go do it? And I don't mean this sarcastically. I sincerely mean, if you truly believe in this route, then go for it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ok yes. We don't disagree with your points, broadly speaking. This route can be useful for a fledging lawyer. It certainly won't be detrimental.

So go and find an arrangement that allows you to do such an in-house stint and thereafter bring your 6 month in-house experience back to private practice?

Not sure why you're trying so hard to convince us here about the merits of such a route? If you're so convinced that this route is advantageous and worth pursing on the merits, then just go do it? And I don't mean this sarcastically. I sincerely mean, if you truly believe in this route, then go for it.

Appreciate the reply taking my thoughts seriously.

Yes, of course, I will.

The reason I'm writing on this forum is because I'd love to know how and whether anyone has heard of such stints being pursued at this early level.

1. What can a law student say/write in their application to convince an in-house counsel to take a chance on them and let them work with them for a short stint? If you guys responding are truly in-house, and you are planning to work towards SCCA's initiative to open up legal in-house internships/placements to law students, then what would convince you to take someone on?

2. Are there any platforms (outside of the nus/smu portals, for obvious reasons) where people can apply for such stints?- I understand that MaritimeONE is one such example for internships.
at Maritime companies for in-house internships, amidst the usual law firms as well.

Lol did anyone see that linkedin public apology by Nadine (nus law student) to Ethan Ong (ntu) posted today?

I guess we know who didn't win

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Lol did anyone see that linkedin public apology by Nadine (nus law student) to Ethan Ong (ntu) posted today?

I guess we know who didn't win

This is the alcohol incident right. She got schooled about defamation law. Expensive experiential learning. She'd better get an A for her Advanced Torts module after this to make it worthwhile