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Old 12-11-2022, 01:03 AM
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For the newcomers who are blur about the DRD salary punishment talk

s://.rollonfriday.com/news-content/exclusive-singapore-firm-slaps-down-lawyer-spilling-slashed-bonus

Never forget

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Heard Cooley and GunDett got layoffs. Any assocs based in SG affected?
Not yet 10ch

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Why is Simpson Thacher increasing base pay when the economy is not doing well?
It’s just fx la

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Old 13-11-2022, 02:22 PM
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Slogging it out in a small or mid tier Sinkie law firm on paltry $6K $7K $8K pay is really one of the dumbest things you can do. The only upside to working in a B4, also sweatshops, is the shot at better exit options to international firms.

A small or mid tier local firm provides you no such opps. If you ever find yourself in one of these outfits, GTFO as soon as you can. The effort-to-reward ratio is simply not worth it. You can get much better lifestyle in other non-high-flyer corporate jobs for the kind of paltry pay mid tiers are paying their lawyers.
Big 4 firms Allen &Gledhill, Rajah & Tann, Wong partnership, Drew napier have a huge plus point that money can't buy: Political visibility & Ruling Party connections.

Which firm did Edwin Tong, Shanmugam, Lucien Wong all worked for?
Which firm was founded by founding members of the Ruling Party?
Which firm has a PAP MP as one of its founders?
Which firm a former deputy PM as a consultant?
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Big 4 firms Allen &Gledhill, Rajah & Tann, Wong partnership, Drew napier have a huge plus point that money can't buy: Political visibility & Ruling Party connections.

Which firm did Edwin Tong, Shanmugam, Lucien Wong all worked for?
Which firm was founded by founding members of the Ruling Party?
Which firm has a PAP MP as one of its founders?
Which firm a former deputy PM as a consultant?
The purpose of law firms is to serve clients, no? i.e. to maximise profits

I see your point that having political connections may get you some leeway with government bodies for requests, etc. but what else is there to it?
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The tentacles of the opposition are more entrenched than you realise.

Singapore's educational institutions and establishment insiders, are playing both sides.

These insiders cannot defect to the other side openly, so they are subtly hinting to the opposition what positions to take for their subsequent maneuvers.

Tommy Koh himself is partaking in these so-called divisive racial politics.

These insiders may not "tear relentlessly at fault lines" like the extreme ones, but they do... tear subtly and perniciously at fault lines.


[s://lkyspp.nus.edu.sg/docs/default-source/ips/yahoo_very-unhappy-no-malays-among-mfa-undergraduate-interns---prof-tommy-koh_220721.pdf[/
Oh, innocent baby, it's not just Tommy. There's another, WALTER WOON.

AG for merely 2 years, lover of ruffling feathers. Doesn't dare to oppose openly so hides behind Suet Fern's clout by representing her.

Purposely throws out muddying statements on govt stances he takes issue with, causing the G to have to make clarifications to correct and overrule him. If he goes too far or gets cornered, he becomes as bendable as piece of straw, will autocorrect and say "kidding", "was being facetious".

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WW: In November 1990, Woon appeared before the Parliamentary Select Committee on the Constitution of the Republic of Singapore (Amendment No. 3) Bill (Bill No. 23/90) to make representations on the proposed introduction of an elected President for Singapore. He took the view that since the elected president should be politically neutral, Cabinet members should only be eligible to stand for election five years after leaving politics

G: Halimah Yacob; became president immediately

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WW: July 1991 in an interview by The Straits Times Woon commented: "We effectively don't have a Constitution. We have a law that can be easily changed by Parliament, and by the party in power because the party is Parliament. The changes themselves might not be controversial, but it is unsettling how flexible the Constitution is, unlike, say, in the United States."

G: In reply, Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong pointed out that past changes to the Constitution had been made only with a two-thirds parliamentary majority and not done lightheartedly, as the intensive discussions and the two-year gestation period of the Elected President Bill proved. He affirmed that the Constitution had to evolve to reflect the changing needs of the people, and that it could not be assumed that the Constitution, drafted in 1965, would be the best Constitution for always and should be frozen in time. "So to say that because the Government in power changes the Constitution there is no Constitution is ridiculous, to put it mildly."

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WW: Woon has said that 377A sets a “dangerous precedent” whereby the political authorities are informing the PP – who is supposed to be independent – not to enforce some laws.

G: AG Lucien Wong said WW may have given "an inaccurate impression", Attorney-General Lucien Wong sustains that prosecutorial discretion regarding Section 377A has not changed from V.K. Rajah’s time as AG.
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The purpose of law firms is to serve clients, no? i.e. to maximise profits

I see your point that having political connections may get you some leeway with government bodies for requests, etc. but what else is there to it?
Exit Opps my dear. Prestige. Power. There's nothing sweeter than the opportunity to be made up as a lawmaker, or minister... the very law that you lawyers encircle your livelihoods upon?
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Exit Opps my dear. Prestige. Power. There's nothing sweeter than the opportunity to be made up as a lawmaker, or minister... the very law that you lawyers encircle your livelihoods upon?
Pretty sure anyone who intends to go into politics doesn't do so for exit opps as seen from Shanmugam, Indranee Rajah. Even Edwin Tong. The reason to go into politics in Singapore is not as "prestigious" as other nations, though we do have the highest pay for public officials in office. Aside from that, you lose out a lot on freedom and your family will also lose their freedom to get that "prestige". More likely, they enter politics as a calling and not for money per se

You don't see people from international firms striving to go into public office because of their fat checks lol. Why would you move out of your current equivalent (or more) salary to lose your freedom and take on more onerous duties and subject to public scrutiny?
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Pretty sure anyone who intends to go into politics doesn't do so for exit opps as seen from Shanmugam, Indranee Rajah. Even Edwin Tong. The reason to go into politics in Singapore is not as "prestigious" as other nations, though we do have the highest pay for public officials in office. Aside from that, you lose out a lot on freedom and your family will also lose their freedom to get that "prestige". More likely, they enter politics as a calling and not for money per se

You don't see people from international firms striving to go into public office because of their fat checks lol. Why would you move out of your current equivalent (or more) salary to lose your freedom and take on more onerous duties and subject to public scrutiny?
Dont talk rubbish. Being a politician is the best job ever
You only need to work once every 5 years for 2 months and you get paid for 5 years. Intl firm partners hate this retirement trick.
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Walter Woon gives me the impression of
- a Walt Disney character (as he appears to be a firm believer of legal fictions that practitioners/ lawmakers know aren't exactly real, even in the West that pioneered them e.g. judicial independence. And neither are disney characters real)!,
-an irreverent, idealistic credentialist too wrapped up in the comforts of his own proud little world (as a result of the high office bestowed on him by the then powers in the G),
-a bit of an armchair critic like how academics generally are (they love provoking viewpoints), -but unfortunately, sorely lacking in practicalities or personal touch.

He deserves to get his "independent", "thought-provoking" views steamrolled over and over by the G, for his lack of gumption. He will find that he belongs nowhere except in the clouds.
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