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Old 29-08-2021, 12:13 PM
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1 mth, but the team is severely short handed. No admin support, trainees or other assocs. The files and matters need a lot of handing over. Probably need to give even longer notice for transition.

What about application to firms like SLB, DRD? Anyone has thoughts about WP Corp or Eng&Coís Corp team?
No admin support, trainees or other assocs?
Worry not. Partner have 2 hands. Left hand handover to right hand, right hand handover back to left hand.

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Yeah, juniors are so worthless and always have strawberry mentality. They deserve even lower pay. Canít wait till legal salary pay is $2-3k.
Boss u pay me half pay, I work half day ok?
Boi ah, u work half day, then how I make sure some of u burnout? I need to feed all of you until 5PQE ah? I no lui ah. I lawyer leh, force u resign, irony a not ah boi boi. Later lawsuit my PC gone, I law firm boss becum grab driver. U own self burnout go bake cakes lah boi boi.

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Drewcorp good but Drewís corp pass.

R&T has corp?
What drewcorp. You mean corporate secretarial? Why would anyone want to do that

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Junior assoc here from a small mid sized. Thinking of applying out and moving firm from Jan onward. Would applying in Sept be too early. Not expecting any bonus this year. Didnít have any also.
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1 mth, but the team is severely short handed. No admin support, trainees or other assocs. The files and matters need a lot of handing over. Probably need to give even longer notice for transition.

What about application to firms like SLB, DRD? Anyone has thoughts about WP Corp or Eng&Coís Corp team?

Which small mid sized firm is this. Attrition rate so high. Left 1 junior Assoc.
Donít apply anywhere please. Your partner will cry.
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Make up your mind before you write your hypotheticals.
Are you small or mid sized?
Are you a team or a partner-assoc pair?
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Make up your mind before you write your hypotheticals.
Are you small or mid sized?
Are you a team or a partner-assoc pair?

medium, but on the smaller end of the medium sized.

seccie resigned, sometimes a sporadic intern, essentially a partner-assoc pair.

seems to be hard to find trainee oso now
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Serious question. Is it true That Chinatown or small firms starting salary is 3k? Or how much is it?
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medium, but on the smaller end of the medium sized.

seccie resigned, sometimes a sporadic intern, essentially a partner-assoc pair.

seems to be hard to find trainee oso now
How is it a medium-sized firm if it's only a 2 man team. You have to be honest with yourself on whether you're a small-sized firm associate, and therefore it may be harder to upgrade to larger midsize or large firms.
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How is it a medium-sized firm if it's only a 2 man team. You have to be honest with yourself on whether you're a small-sized firm associate, and therefore it may be harder to upgrade to larger midsize or large firms.
10+ lawyers. But the team 2 person
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Serious question. Is it true That Chinatown or small firms starting salary is 3k? Or how much is it?
I've heard it ranges around 3.5 (bare minimum) -4.5 (most small firms are closer to at least <4k), but that's excluding bonuses. You'll earn about 30% less than big law firms, but the difference will not be as big in the formative years (assuming your firms pays out around 3-4 months of bonus).

Also, if you're hardworking or good at negotiating, usually what happens is that associates will ask for a cut of the fees they generate. I've heard of chinatown lawyers under 3PQE earning 10-15k from chinatown firms, as they have deals where they get 10-20% of fees generated.

If you're not super ambitious, the partners make a really decent living. It's just that your earning at chinatown firms (those crim/family sweatshops) will top out at say 20-30k, whereas biglaw firms (if you slog for years and make it to equity level), will top out at alot higher.
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