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Old 30-11-2022, 08:29 PM
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Donít bother.
Itís a dead programme thatís unreviewed and engineers are just thrown to your section to rot till you leave.
Most older batches (myself included) have left the company as there arenít any prospect to grow further.
Could u explain why there is no prospect in SP Group?
I tot it is a company designed to work until retirement?
I understand there are many employees who worked there from their 20s to 60s.
How is the salary for fresh graduate compared to outside market?

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1) 5+ years. Most senior batches have left and never looked back.
2) yes but most technical skills are not transferable.
3) civil service. Better pay, better WLB, project management (which is a skill thatís transferable)
How much is the average annual increment there?
I heard the skills learnt in SP Group are not useful outside. Anybody can elaborate more on this?

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With the company for over a year plus. Overloaded with maiantance works, too many switching incidents, shortage of manpower, keep threatening one more incident = cut bonus, attend to alarm at night for pathetic $50 (unchanged since 2000s), customer shutdown after 12 midnight with no OT pay. Overall morale is very low. Crazy HOB keep scolding engineers and TOs for no reason. How to work happily if they threaten to cut bonus every now in addition to our extremely low base pay and high work load?

Low base pay for fresh. $4k regardless of honours, no NS bonus. Stat board like PUB, LTA, HTX etc pays high $4ks, or $5k for fresh grads. Keep claiming pay is competitive, but refuse to compare with stat board but compare with low paying companies like OEMs and SMEs. Did half hearted salary review but still way below par. Never considered that our job is specliased, dangerous and hazardous. So many SP engineers quit and join civil service or stat board. HR so many "Directors" but not a single Director dare to say: it because of pay! Don't understand why HR need so many Directors if till today can't figure out why so many are leaving.

HR try to bluff about annual package and bonus, but civil service has mid and year end bonus, so adding together, government pays much more. SP average performer got 3 months bonus and that's it, civil service average performer PB maybe 2.5 months, add 0.5 month of mid year, 2 months of AWS + year end bonus. And remember! SP cuts bonus when there are safety incidents. Do the math.

Pls do not join and regret later on.
thanks alot for sharing with us. and yes I also heard about the 50$ extras just for midnight shift... sounds ridiculous for the risks involved which can cause death, life is at stake.

overall sounds super bad.



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Could u explain why there is no prospect in SP Group?
I tot it is a company designed to work until retirement?
I understand there are many employees who worked there from their 20s to 60s.
How is the salary for fresh graduate compared to outside market?
Those stayed from 20s to 60s is they too lepak and comfortable already, stay in retirement village all the way.
Now is 21st century, stay so long means earning peanut for that long and can't hop because they're stuck.
Yearly increment only a couple %.
Go do the maths and be smart
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Those stayed from 20s to 60s is they too lepak and comfortable already, stay in retirement village all the way.
Now is 21st century, stay so long means earning peanut for that long and can't hop because they're stuck.
Yearly increment only a couple %.
Go do the maths and be smart
But the bonus of 3 months is rather high though the increment is a couple %.
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But the bonus of 3 months is rather high though the increment is a couple %.
High ?
You must either be delusional or ignorant of the outside world.
Many engineering contractors / main con are able to get 3months easily without the high risks.
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High ?
You must either be delusional or ignorant of the outside world.
Many engineering contractors / main con are able to get 3months easily without the high risks.
3 months - band 4Öwhat about band 3 and aboveÖlol
Band 1 - 6 months lehÖ.lol


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But the bonus of 3 months is rather high though the increment is a couple %.
Bonus is lower than civil service. No point joining SP, when you can do less dangerous work, with more pay with government. Many SP engineers hop there.
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Anybody knows whether SP will assist to subsidize when u buy a car which is required for work as need to travel around?
I heard last time SP provided subsidy once u buy a car but need to sign a bond with them?
Does this still in practice?
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Anybody knows whether SP will assist to subsidize when u buy a car which is required for work as need to travel around?
I heard last time SP provided subsidy once u buy a car but need to sign a bond with them?
Does this still in practice?
Scrapped long ago. But bosses strongly encourage engineers to buy car to show independence, if not be prepared to suffer during appraisal.
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