HR-related Jobs - How much are you earning?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hey there, nope. i just graduated from nus (2nd upper) in dec! i've been shortlisted for interviews with 2 stat boards so far and have gone for mindef's psychometric test too but have yet to hear back..

i think someone in this forum mentioned that the govt sector does not offer "real" specialized roles like c&b, l&d etc (please correct me if i'm wrong) so i'm contemplating whether i should even take the civil service route. sigh.

civil service unless ur in policy space, the hr roles usually operational & implementing the hr policy. can try to apply for specialised hr policy jobs, but i think these usually reserved for scholars or high performers experienced ppl from pte sector.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

civil service unless ur in policy space, the hr roles usually operational & implementing the hr policy. can try to apply for specialised hr policy jobs, but i think these usually reserved for scholars or high performers experienced ppl from pte sector.

For civil service is policy HR paid higher than generalist HR? Will having a FCH from SMU increase the chance to get into policy HR?

No official pay difference between policy and generalist HR in CS. Non-scholars will join the usual MX scheme whereas scholars will join a seperate scheme that pays much higher than MX.

Almost all the jobs on policy / specialist side (not only HR) are for scholars that are not on MX. Your SMU FCH will give a few hundred dollars more starting pay, but it will still be the MX scheme. For super high performer sometimes they sponsor for further studies and the person can move into a different scheme after further studies, but very rare case.

Originally Posted by heartswap

well right now i'm wondering if i should apply for marcomms.. but then again i know zilch about marketing and i would think that business grads, as usual, have an advantage over me. and to be honest, i focused more on media studies while in university. this is where my passion (and strength) lies in. so i'm not all that confident of my abilities to do communication mgmt. crap.

I was from ntu comms and I find I'm having similar difficulties as you.

Somehow when people see a comms degree the first assumption is either that you're a marcomms or pr person. They don't realise media studies as a field is pretty much like a social science like more traditional subjects like psychology/sociology etc.

Hi, sorry this isn't actually contributing to the discussion about HR careers but I have a HR-related question that hopefully the more experienced contributors here can help me with.

I recently resigned from a job and was informed that I 'owe' the company 9 days of work. It's a shift job and somehow I have not been rostered as many days as I should have been or something.

Because currently the staffing in my dept is very tight and they have a hiring freeze, I'm afraid that they will request for me to work the extra 9 days further than my end date instead of simply taking money out of my last paycheck.

I die die want to leave at my 'real' end date ie. one month after I tendered, and I don't mind if they take money from my paycheck. Just wondering if it's possible for them to 'force' me to work the days I owe? Is it within my rights to opt for which option I prefer?

HR intern at Total Oil
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Originally Posted by Unregistered

No official pay difference between policy and generalist HR in CS. Non-scholars will join the usual MX scheme whereas scholars will join a seperate scheme that pays much higher than MX.

Almost all the jobs on policy / specialist side (not only HR) are for scholars that are not on MX. Your SMU FCH will give a few hundred dollars more starting pay, but it will still be the MX scheme. For super high performer sometimes they sponsor for further studies and the person can move into a different scheme after further studies, but very rare case.

False information. Scholars do not automatically go into a non-MX scheme/AO etc. There are MX officers doing policy work and it isn't only for scholars. No doubt you will find scholars there but that goes for many other job functions as well.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

False information. Scholars do not automatically go into a non-MX scheme/AO etc. There are MX officers doing policy work and it isn't only for scholars. No doubt you will find scholars there but that goes for many other job functions as well.

Technically true, but this is more a result of these days different ministries and stat boards are sponsoring many people for studies. Most of these sponsorhsips are very easy to get and really don't require academic excellence or high CEP or strong consistent performance. The end result is a whole of of people calling themselves civil servant scholars without the accompanying pay and career progression expected of a scholar. So yar, nowadays many "scholars" are actually on MX scheme or the normal Div I officer in SB.

One will need to ask the old birds in each ministry what type of scholarship is the real scholar type and know how to differentiate. Nowadays I know many of such fake "scholars" in my ministry CEP only DD or SAD type.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Technically true, but this is more a result of these days different ministries and stat boards are sponsoring many people for studies. Most of these sponsorhsips are very easy to get and really don't require academic excellence or high CEP or strong consistent performance. The end result is a whole of of people calling themselves civil servant scholars without the accompanying pay and career progression expected of a scholar. So yar, nowadays many "scholars" are actually on MX scheme or the normal Div I officer in SB.

One will need to ask the old birds in each ministry what type of scholarship is the real scholar type and know how to differentiate. Nowadays I know many of such fake "scholars" in my ministry CEP only DD or SAD type.

do you mean sponsorships for postgrad studies for civil servants who've served a few years with a decent grading?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

do you mean sponsorships for postgrad studies for civil servants who've served a few years with a decent grading?

Not only mid career sponsorship which every ministry and stat board introduce their own pattern, even undergrad studies got many different scholarship schemes where most are quite easy to qualify.

eg. last time SAF scholar = SAFOS = At least BG before retirement. Now SAF itself got 3 or 4 main scholarships + each service branch and expert skill function create their own scholarship program, so we now have all sorts of SAF regulars supposedly a scholar but most of them retire as LTC or SLTC.

It is the same in ministry, stat board & other quasi gov departments as well. The whole concept of government scholar is now become a joke.