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Old 20-03-2020, 09:16 AM
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Hi... Thanks for all the replies. I guess I was quite down when I wrote the previous post. But again, I think I can do more nowadays... I will also try to be more influential in persuading my Dept colleagues to come on board with me... Actually at the end of the day, I'm more concerned about professional development of oneself. I just felt too comfortable with my current job and hope I can make a difference and impact to my colleagues... Sounds vain or probably'noble'? 🤣 Being in this service for for 6 years and started off with a dip grad, I guess I've come far enough. It's time and experiences which I will need to gather before moving up to the next grade.
To reiterate - it is possible to score A for sure as GEO 3. I did that before.

But it will be near impossible to get A the year of your promotion. Highest I have heard so far is a B. There is a saying that usually year of promotion you will only get a C+ highest. This is generally true for most people, but not all.

With regards to your long term PD, yes, try to extend out beyond yourself. Mentor others, work with other schools and organisations and grow

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To reiterate - it is possible to score A for sure as GEO 3. I did that before.

But it will be near impossible to get A the year of your promotion. Highest I have heard so far is a B. There is a saying that usually year of promotion you will only get a C+ highest. This is generally true for most people, but not all.

With regards to your long term PD, yes, try to extend out beyond yourself. Mentor others, work with other schools and organisations and grow
Some Ps follow the recommendation like bible, so it can be disheartening to do a lot more and when news of promotion comes in Term 2, it will be like....GG. so far max grade that I have gotten in my year of promotion is B (rare occurrence) with C+ for the other occasions.

Yes, it is not about doing things for the grades, but when effort is not justified because it is the year of promotion, it is hard for one not to feel under appreciated.

Good years, A at GEO 3, 4. GEO 5 was when I bade goodbye to anny possibilities of As rofl.

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To reiterate - it is possible to score A for sure as GEO 3. I did that before.

But it will be near impossible to get A the year of your promotion. Highest I have heard so far is a B. There is a saying that usually year of promotion you will only get a C+ highest. This is generally true for most people, but not all.

With regards to your long term PD, yes, try to extend out beyond yourself. Mentor others, work with other schools and organisations and grow
I think largely dependent on the SL. Personally, I have gotten A as a GEO 3 officer. However, with the new SL, it seems much harder. No one above GEO 2 got A this time round.

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Some Ps follow the recommendation like bible, so it can be disheartening to do a lot more and when news of promotion comes in Term 2, it will be like....GG. so far max grade that I have gotten in my year of promotion is B (rare occurrence) with C+ for the other occasions.

Yes, it is not about doing things for the grades, but when effort is not justified because it is the year of promotion, it is hard for one not to feel under appreciated.

Good years, A at GEO 3, 4. GEO 5 was when I bade goodbye to anny possibilities of As rofl.
True enough, only gotten C this time round. Its okay, can work harder this year!
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True enough, only gotten C this time round. Its okay, can work harder this year!
The reward for good work is more work??? Work harder??
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Just read my PB...got C+ as a GEO1.
Not many GEO 1 in my school. Did so many things...but not even a B? Am I that soo
undeserving to be given a B to the point that even if there is little competition, i'm still not good
enough to be given any higher grade than a C+?
7 years in this. It's really tiring me out.
A mistake in year 3 of service made me get a C-.
But it has been so many years. Still GEO1. Still a C grader.

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Just read my PB...got C+ as a GEO1.
Not many GEO 1 in my school. Did so many things...but not even a B? Am I that soo
undeserving to be given a B to the point that even if there is little competition, i'm still not good
enough to be given any higher grade than a C+?
7 years in this. It's really tiring me out.
A mistake in year 3 of service made me get a C-.
But it has been so many years. Still GEO1. Still a C grader.

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7 years as GEO 1???
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Just read my PB...got C+ as a GEO1.
Not many GEO 1 in my school. Did so many things...but not even a B? Am I that soo
undeserving to be given a B to the point that even if there is little competition, i'm still not good
enough to be given any higher grade than a C+?
7 years in this. It's really tiring me out.
A mistake in year 3 of service made me get a C-.
But it has been so many years. Still GEO1. Still a C grader.

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Perhaps you can speak to your RO about your concerns about your grade and find out what else you can do to improve your grade. Alternatively, you should consider applying for a transfer to get a fresh start elsewhere. Jiayou!
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Wow find it difficult to believe that you are still a GEO1 after 7 years. Have you raised your concern to your RO before?

What I have found out through my own experience is that the amount of work you have done does not matter. It is knowing the “right” person in the school and getting them to fight for what you want. Don’t forget that during the ranking session we cannot be there so no choice but to depend on others to champion our rights.

Ideally all the KPs will chip in to mention what you have done but most of the time, unless it benefits them or you are also one of the up-and-rising star in the school, they wouldn’t be bothered to and you will just end up with an average grade and never get promoted.

If you have already voiced out and it still stays the same, my advice is transfer school or get out of the service to do something else. I am in the same boat as you and am contemplating leaving the service.

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Just read my PB...got C+ as a GEO1.
Not many GEO 1 in my school. Did so many things...but not even a B? Am I that soo
undeserving to be given a B to the point that even if there is little competition, i'm still not good
enough to be given any higher grade than a C+?
7 years in this. It's really tiring me out.
A mistake in year 3 of service made me get a C-.
But it has been so many years. Still GEO1. Still a C grader.

😔
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Just read my PB...got C+ as a GEO1.
Not many GEO 1 in my school. Did so many things...but not even a B? Am I that soo
undeserving to be given a B to the point that even if there is little competition, i'm still not good
enough to be given any higher grade than a C+?
7 years in this. It's really tiring me out.
A mistake in year 3 of service made me get a C-.
But it has been so many years. Still GEO1. Still a C grader.

😔
Seems like that mistake delayed your promotion and lowered your CEP. In civil service it will have multiple repercussions. I suggest you speak to your RO and ask for honesty in terms of advancement prospects. Just being objective here. If you have really given a lot ever since year 3 and you can justify them in front of your RO. I don't see why you can't get promoted If your RO doesn't agree then let him/her explain to you why. Maybe it gives you a fresh perspective of how you see yourself in the educational fraternity as well.
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