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Old 15-12-2015, 10:53 AM
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ITE lecturer pay range based on estimates from online sharing so far:

Lecturer I ($4,300 - $6,000)
Lecturer II ($6,000 - $7,900)
Senior Lecturer I ($7,900 - $9,800)
Senior Lecturer II ($9,800 - $11,500)
Master Lecturer I ($11,500 - $15,000)
Master Lecturer II ($15,000 - $20,000)
Principal Lecturer ($20,000 - $28,000)

Master Lecturer is considered start of superscale. For average performer the highest you can go is either Senior Lecturer II or Master Lecturer I.

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Old 15-12-2015, 12:24 PM
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cannot compare ITE to university level. totally different.


from what i know, there isn't really any inflated titles in ITE but of course, my own views.



in the education side -

technical officers, lecturers, senior lecturers, master lecturers.

education management side -
section head, course manager, senior course manager, deputy director, director, senior director, deputy principal and principal.


no fanciful midway titles like executive directors, senior vice president, etc. etc. of course that is not to say that there won't be such titles in the future.
Depends on what is meant by inflated titles. Technically it is not wrong to call ITE teachers Lecturer or Senior Lecturer as their job is to lecture the students after all.

However this term does convey an impression of someone with high academic achievements, specialist in their own professional fields who are dealing with high level tertiary students or experienced post graduates. In that sense it doesn’t fit most ITE lecturers who are generally diploma, private uni degree or vocational cert holders teaching blue collar skills and being paid more like junior level white collar executives.

It’s like the misuse of terms like management consultant, financial advisor or specialist. Even though literally they might be accurate, but the accompanied connotations (especially with layman) are somewhat a mismatch and are clearly stated with the intention to make the job sound far more heavy weight than it really is.

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ITE lecturer pay range based on estimates from online sharing so far:

Lecturer I ($4,300 - $6,000)
Lecturer II ($6,000 - $7,900)
Senior Lecturer I ($7,900 - $9,800)
Senior Lecturer II ($9,800 - $11,500)
Master Lecturer I ($11,500 - $15,000)
Master Lecturer II ($15,000 - $20,000)
Principal Lecturer ($20,000 - $28,000)

Master Lecturer is considered start of superscale. For average performer the highest you can go is either Senior Lecturer II or Master Lecturer I.
This is so wrong?! How can ITE lecturer be earning more than Poly Lecturers? The average Poly Lecturers at most can go up to PAX4, ceiling at $8.9k.

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ITE lecturer pay range based on estimates from online sharing so far:

Lecturer I ($4,300 - $6,000)
Lecturer II ($6,000 - $7,900)
Senior Lecturer I ($7,900 - $9,800)
Senior Lecturer II ($9,800 - $11,500)
Master Lecturer I ($11,500 - $15,000)
Master Lecturer II ($15,000 - $20,000)
Principal Lecturer ($20,000 - $28,000)

Master Lecturer is considered start of superscale. For average performer the highest you can go is either Senior Lecturer II or Master Lecturer I.
my toes are laughing. ITE is under moe meaning end of the day still a quasi stat board. only an idiot will believe that government will pay a bunch of diploma grads this kind of salary. master lecturer 5-6k+ & principal lecturer 6-8k more like it.
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Old 15-12-2015, 06:30 PM
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This pay scale is way ahead of its time for ite lecturers. This may be true in 15 to 20 yrs time.

In 1980s, starting salaries for engineers were $1500 to $1800. Now, it is around $3,800 to $4,500

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This is so wrong?! How can ITE lecturer be earning more than Poly Lecturers? The average Poly Lecturers at most can go up to PAX4, ceiling at $8.9k.
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This pay scale is way ahead of its time for ite lecturers. This may be true in 15 to 20 yrs time.

In 1980s, starting salaries for engineers were $1500 to $1800. Now, it is around $3,800 to $4,500
more like 30-40 years time.

engineers starting where got so high now? more like 3-4k.
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ITE lecturer pay range based on estimates from online sharing so far:

Lecturer I ($4,300 - $6,000)
Lecturer II ($6,000 - $7,900)
Senior Lecturer I ($7,900 - $9,800)
Senior Lecturer II ($9,800 - $11,500)
Master Lecturer I ($11,500 - $15,000)
Master Lecturer II ($15,000 - $20,000)
Principal Lecturer ($20,000 - $28,000)

Master Lecturer is considered start of superscale. For average performer the highest you can go is either Senior Lecturer II or Master Lecturer I.
so does that mean for an average performer (C+ or B-) highest is 15k? what is the performance needed to reach principal lecturer?
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What is the performace bonus for pax 4 senior lecturer
Assume his performace rating is 4 out of 7
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What is the performace bonus for pax 4 senior lecturer
Assume his performace rating is 4 out of 7
pax 4 B- 3.75 mths..
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How about the performance bonus for pax 4 lectuter with c- rating
2 mths ?
2.25 mths?
Or no pb?
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