Local Uni Class of 2020 - COVID19 Batch - Are your lowering your expectations?

hi guys, am looking for some advice;

should one take up the SGUnitedTraineeship if offered a position or continue looking for a full-time role?

local uni grad with second upper but being offered 2.2k for the traineeship.

understand that times are hard now, but is this too low an expectation or should I take it as an internship to gain experience first?

will appreciate any help, thanks

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi guys, am looking for some advice;

should one take up the SGUnitedTraineeship if offered a position or continue looking for a full-time role?

local uni grad with second upper but being offered 2.2k for the traineeship.

understand that times are hard now, but is this too low an expectation or should I take it as an internship to gain experience first?

will appreciate any help, thanks

Wah you dam xia sway local u, you should went to SIM in the first place

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Wah you dam xia sway local u, you should went to SIM in the first place

SIM probably get diploma traineeship in this market

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi guys, am looking for some advice;

should one take up the SGUnitedTraineeship if offered a position or continue looking for a full-time role?

local uni grad with second upper but being offered 2.2k for the traineeship.

understand that times are hard now, but is this too low an expectation or should I take it as an internship to gain experience first?

will appreciate any help, thanks

Yes, take it as being paid to learn, so you have the right skills to be employed when the recovery comes

Originally Posted by sinkingfeeling

Thank you. Am now in the process of getting help for my many health issues. Hopefully will pave the path for resolving my career issues.

No prob.

Hope your health issues are not very serious. I had a number of health issues too in the past, like dengue and tuberculosis, even had depression at one point too. But if I can overcome them, so can you. I chose to see them as challenges for me to overcome, and motivation to prove to myself that I can still excel despite the hand that I was dealt with. And health issues are just things we cannot control. So believe me when we do conquer them, we can definitely overcome anything else that comes our way too.

Jiayou, take one thing at a time, and all the best.

Originally Posted by sinkingfeeling

First work problem I can think of: when I had a job I used to spend a lot of time writing and rewriting emails.

I was scared that people would interpret something I didn't mean. Also have a desire to make sure my writing is polished. But then I always spent maybe half an hour on that.

I think this is quite common. But what I seem to realise is that in terms of content, a general rule of thumb is to be short and to the point. This is especially so if you are writing to someone who is very much higher up, they don't really have time to read emails, and they want you to be short and sweet and to the point. Unless you are writing those kind of mass spam informative email, no point being long-winded cause it just turns the reader off.

In terms of format, the email still needs to be formal and not rude, but don't be too polite cause it doesn't add value in any way, and it can portray that you are not being firm. Use lots of white space paragraphing too so it looks more organised and less of a mass clump of words. And once again, short and to the point, leave out any irrelevant information that has no value.

I personally like to schedule a catch-up with the other party and relay the information verbally first, then follow up with an email detailing what we went through. This ensures that they know what you are referring to since they already heard what you have said and you are just reinforcing it through an email. Secondly, it gives you a chance to practice your communication skills as well since you are conveying information verbally first. If they don't even understand what you are saying to them, I think sending through email isn't going to be much different. But of course, this greatly depends on whether the other party prefers emails or physical catch-ups and you need to play by ear.

Anyway, hope this helps in some way.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi guys, am looking for some advice;

should one take up the SGUnitedTraineeship if offered a position or continue looking for a full-time role?

local uni grad with second upper but being offered 2.2k for the traineeship.

understand that times are hard now, but is this too low an expectation or should I take it as an internship to gain experience first?

will appreciate any help, thanks

Eh...you already know it's a "traineeship" not a "full time employment position" so obviously you should be aware of the traineeship market rates - everything is stated clearly on the infographics and on the websites. To ask if "this is too low an expectation" means you are still inherently comparing it to to pre-covid full time employment market rates for fresh grads, which you shouldn't. Use the traineeship salary guide as a point of reference and you will see that 2.2k is considered higher range for trainees.

Also, are you the same 2.2 guy from the other thread lol

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi guys, am looking for some advice;

should one take up the SGUnitedTraineeship if offered a position or continue looking for a full-time role?

local uni grad with second upper but being offered 2.2k for the traineeship.

understand that times are hard now, but is this too low an expectation or should I take it as an internship to gain experience first?

will appreciate any help, thanks

You got to be kidding me, this is as good as you can get, if you are real good, you would still be having virtual interviews like some of my friends.

Dont hiam, just because we have local uni "cert" does not mean you are able to give more value to your employer, just take the offer and accept the fact that you are average or just slightly above average. Not everyone is meant to be at the top, it is called the top for a reason

I want to join investment banking.. any tips? graduating next year

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I want to join investment banking.. any tips? graduating next year

Sell your soul and worship to the god of money.
God of money will tell you to backstab your peers. Learn to be two face.
Be charismatic, emphatatic, kind but at the same time, be prepared to betray your colleagues to get that $ promotion and bonus.