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Old 12-08-2011, 10:12 PM
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Wondering if it is useful to have a 3rd class honors? Prospect wise is it better than a bachelor without honors?



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Hon is useful only if u r in public sector.

For private sector, it is used to knock doors for interview. Job progression depends much on job performance.

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yes u can put in resume

Bachelor of XX (Hons) while someone else can only put Bachelor of XX.

but its definitely not a strong pt for u.

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As suggested, try hiding your 3rd class using BXXX(Hons).

As a hiring manager, 3rd class really is not favoured. Even less than a degree without honours.

Reason? Normally, only 10% of degrees awarded will be of 3rd class.

Without honours normally means that the course is not direct honours. I have not encounter any non honours degree from a degree with honours classification. For degrees with optional honours, a person would not take up honours unless he/she is confident of at least a 2nd upper.

So, a 3rd class is like telling the employer you are academically the bottom 10%.
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Ok thanks...

now the next question is, how much does the salary differ between a honors degree and non-honors degree?
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Salary between normal and honours depend on employer. It can range from a few hundred for 1st class to zero.

Think the thread on salary has some values...
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Old 15-08-2011, 09:38 AM
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I have a 3rd class honor in my degree n I never display this. But i think its better than pass with merit.
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As suggested, try hiding your 3rd class using BXXX(Hons).

As a hiring manager, 3rd class really is not favoured. Even less than a degree without honours.

Reason? Normally, only 10% of degrees awarded will be of 3rd class.

Without honours normally means that the course is not direct honours. I have not encounter any non honours degree from a degree with honours classification. For degrees with optional honours, a person would not take up honours unless he/she is confident of at least a 2nd upper.

So, a 3rd class is like telling the employer you are academically the bottom 10%.
I am always curious how the honours are awarded. Is is based on a bell-curve, meaning that someone has to get 3rd class honours? I know for 1st class, it doesn't work that way. if students don't meet the grade, no 1st class can be awarded.

does it work the same for 3rd class? does anyone know?
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Old 15-08-2011, 03:16 PM
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I got 3rd class honours and am working in a bank as an IT analyst. At 24, i'm earning 45k p.a.

Whatever people say about 'back office' job, i don't care... Low pay? yea.. relatively low compared to elite front-office dudes, but so what? I'm doing what I can and I like to do. And frankly, i don't think 45k is low! it's way above the mean salary (not counting SMU's Cum Laude <2nd upper Honours and above equivalent> hahaha...)

I studied IT-related course in a local uni, so naturally IT in a bank is a good blend of IT + finance... lots of e-learning courses in intranet to find out...

Any experienced managers will be able to spot, in interviews, between 3rd class who're mediocre or 3rd class who can't be bothered to mug for exams. I'd say i'm the latter. Of course, getting 2nd or 1st gets the interviews first, but opportunities are always around. Just find the right one(s)



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Had a 3rd class hon. in Engineering from a local U.

After graduation, worked like a dog, earning less than $30k pa in engineering for initial 2 years.
Make a switch to financial services, after paying up study loan in 2 years.

Currently, earning $100 k - $130k pa (depending on variable bonus) in the financial services industry, as an engineering specialist.

Paper qualification does not matter. You need drive, take initative at work, take more relevant qualifications in the industry you intend get in.

Most 3 important factors:

1) A mentor and/or manager who can pull you up the ladder (Promotion) and pay (increment 7-10% pa)
2) A solid head hunter / recruiter who specialise only in the industry you are in and can really market you well.
3) Networking


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