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Old 27-02-2018, 08:33 PM
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Started with 3.3k, now I'm basically stuck at 8k. I've had barely 1k increment in regular salary in 2-3 years, and at my rank I need a promotion that I'm repeatedly being passed over for to get any significant increase.
u are still better than me, NTU 2nd lower 2007, working in xxx pte ltd (private sector, engineering) 10yrs already same company, starting 2.9k in the same company now only 4.8k(that is after 10yrs of increment + 2 promotion + 2 wage adjustment). Annual increment merely 3-4% nia.

As compared to you, I think I am a real loser. And have to work for another 14 years with 1 more promotion to hit 8k basic.

What do you think? -_-"

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Old 27-02-2018, 09:12 PM
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You have already pointed out that the difference is your peers being scholars and you are not.

Think of it from the HR perspective. I have already invested in my scholars. They are a sunk cost. Of course I need to keep them happy by promoting them first because otherwise they will leave and I will lugi. Think about it this way. Between you and the scholars, who is likely to leave first? Which one will cost the HR more if they leave? You? Or the scholars? Or who is cheaper to replace?

If you want to feel better, compare apples with apples, oranges with oranges. Look at your peers in the CS with the same scheme, same grade, same job scope who are non-scholars. Are they better than you? Or are you actually better? Or more or less about the same?

Sometimes you just need a change in perspective.

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u are still better than me, NTU 2nd lower 2007, working in xxx pte ltd (private sector, engineering) 10yrs already same company, starting 2.9k in the same company now only 4.8k(that is after 10yrs of increment + 2 promotion + 2 wage adjustment). Annual increment merely 3-4% nia.

As compared to you, I think I am a real loser. And have to work for another 14 years with 1 more promotion to hit 8k basic.

What do you think? -_-"
May I ask which industry you in?

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May I ask which industry you in?
dealing with airplane maintenance
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Old 28-02-2018, 03:33 PM
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9 years working experience, coming up to 10 this year.

I feel like I did make the cut, but I'm constantly being passed over for scholars, who are juniors that I literally mentored. How is it fair for someone who relied on my supervision to be promoted over me?

Plus, I've had headhunters for banks offering me better positions, so I know I've made the cut for the private sector as well. The only thing stopping me is that I like my job, and my team, and of course the stability that comes with a civil service job, but the civil service is simply not offering me renumeration competitive enough to keep me there anymore.

Imagine being passed over for promotion for 3 years, knowing full well the last two candidates weren't better workers than you. I see now that the civil service cares far more about qualifications on paper as opposed to actual performance. As a previous poster mentioned, I guess I was naive thinking I could change civil service culture just by working harder than the scholars.
Then it's time to move on...
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u are still better than me, NTU 2nd lower 2007, working in xxx pte ltd (private sector, engineering) 10yrs already same company, starting 2.9k in the same company now only 4.8k(that is after 10yrs of increment + 2 promotion + 2 wage adjustment). Annual increment merely 3-4% nia.

As compared to you, I think I am a real loser. And have to work for another 14 years with 1 more promotion to hit 8k basic.

What do you think? -_-"
You should have changed job to gain more knowledge and better salary. I am from NTU year 2009, 4 years engineering with no honors. Starting pay 2.3k and now getting more than 8k.
Change 4 jobs and 2 promotions. Promotion increment is not as high as job change increment.
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Old 28-02-2018, 09:03 PM
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9 years working experience, coming up to 10 this year.

I feel like I did make the cut, but I'm constantly being passed over for scholars, who are juniors that I literally mentored. How is it fair for someone who relied on my supervision to be promoted over me?

Plus, I've had headhunters for banks offering me better positions, so I know I've made the cut for the private sector as well. The only thing stopping me is that I like my job, and my team, and of course the stability that comes with a civil service job, but the civil service is simply not offering me renumeration competitive enough to keep me there anymore.

Imagine being passed over for promotion for 3 years, knowing full well the last two candidates weren't better workers than you. I see now that the civil service cares far more about qualifications on paper as opposed to actual performance. As a previous poster mentioned, I guess I was naive thinking I could change civil service culture just by working harder than the scholars.
It is what it is in the civil/public service. Scholars move up because the government believes in trying to get a return on their investment.

You should have spoken to your supervisor to understand what is holding you back if you have not done so. Ultimately, it is what you think you deserve versus what they and the organisation think.

There is another alternative to the private sector. That is a transfer to another Ministry or SB. Have you considered that?
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You should have changed job to gain more knowledge and better salary. I am from NTU year 2009, 4 years engineering with no honors. Starting pay 2.3k and now getting more than 8k.
Change 4 jobs and 2 promotions. Promotion increment is not as high as job change increment.
what industry you are in ? doing what?
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what industry you are in ? doing what?
Engineering industry more towards facility side.
Doing management stuff.
Generally, you get to learn more when you are put into a new environment and pick up new skills, thus staying in a role for too long is detrimental to your career.
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9 years working experience, coming up to 10 this year.

I feel like I did make the cut, but I'm constantly being passed over for scholars, who are juniors that I literally mentored. How is it fair for someone who relied on my supervision to be promoted over me?

Plus, I've had headhunters for banks offering me better positions, so I know I've made the cut for the private sector as well. The only thing stopping me is that I like my job, and my team, and of course the stability that comes with a civil service job, but the civil service is simply not offering me renumeration competitive enough to keep me there anymore.

Imagine being passed over for promotion for 3 years, knowing full well the last two candidates weren't better workers than you. I see now that the civil service cares far more about qualifications on paper as opposed to actual performance. As a previous poster mentioned, I guess I was naive thinking I could change civil service culture just by working harder than the scholars.
It's a double strike against you.
Strike 1: overseas uni
Strike 2: no honours

Don't close yourself off to opportunities. Check with those headhunters and go for some interviews. Private sector is not that scary.
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