GovTech

Originally Posted by Unregistered

LOL. None of these simple apps require the bloated headcount of thousands of people that GT employs, let alone a bunch of new hires who walked in without any obvious tasking to do.

1 FAANG dev is probably worth 10 GT ones in terms of ability and productivity.

Lol really no point continue debating with u

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Lol really no point continue debating with u

Why are you so triggered.

Its the truth. If anyone of you managed to get into FAANG, you would have done so in a heartbeat. This includes ex-Indeed refugees that are now scrounging around for jobs.

There's top tier and mid tier. Just like how not every finance professional can get into Goldman Sachs.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

LOL. None of these simple apps require the bloated headcount of thousands of people that GT employs, let alone a bunch of new hires who walked in without any obvious tasking to do.

1 FAANG dev is probably worth 10 GT ones in terms of ability and productivity.

Tell me you are ignorant without telling me you are ignorant. 😂

Originally Posted by Unregistered

LOL. None of these simple apps require the bloated headcount of thousands of people that GT employs, let alone a bunch of new hires who walked in without any obvious tasking to do.

1 FAANG dev is probably worth 10 GT ones in terms of ability and productivity.

Smooth brain: *Asks for evidence*
Common govtechie chad: *Provides evidence*
Smooth brain: "ThESe ArE SiMPle APps"
Common govtechie chad: ?????

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Erm, just off the top of my head
Singpass/Corppass
TraceTogether
SafeEntry
SupplyAlly
Parents Gateway
Student Learning Space
All the products under SGTS

What OGP has delivered so far is a tiny fraction of what GovTech has delivered.
OGP is part of GovTech after all.

From what I know, these were outsourced to vendors leh. GT only proj manage and plug in bits and

[QUOTE=Unregistered;257172]LOL. None of these simple apps require the bloated headcount of thousands of people that GT employs, let alone a bunch of new hires who walked in without any obvious tasking to do. [/quote
You're right, and these apps were not developed by thousands of people, they were developed by a handful of developers. Alphabet has 200K employees worldwide. Not all of them are working on the Pixel phone.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

From what I know, these were outsourced to vendors leh. GT only proj manage and plug in bits and

Your knowledge is wrong. GT developed all of the above-mentioned apps, and a lot more.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Your knowledge is wrong. GT developed all of the above-mentioned apps, and a lot more.

Accenture were the ones that developed Singpass, not to mention helping cpf and iras build their systems as well. GT only manages the system and when the time is up, pay vendors to do a tech refresh of the system and claim all contribution to themselves lol.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Accenture were the ones that developed Singpass, not to mention helping cpf and iras build their systems as well. GT only manages the system and when the time is up, pay vendors to do a tech refresh of the system and claim all contribution to themselves lol.

U are right that many of the products are built by third party.

And there's reason for that. The govt doesn't need everything to be built in house. This is to create jobs and opportunities for the private sector to come in and bid for it. To let them earn some money so that they will continue to hire locals. If everything is done in house, how to deal with massive head count later.

Not to mention tech refresh is to encourage precisely this. And to prevent corruption or one company knows it all and hold the govt by the neck

Originally Posted by Unregistered

U are right that many of the products are built by third party.

And there's reason for that. The govt doesn't need everything to be built in house. This is to create jobs and opportunities for the private sector to come in and bid for it. To let them earn some money so that they will continue to hire locals. If everything is done in house, how to deal with massive head count later.

Not to mention tech refresh is to encourage precisely this. And to prevent corruption or one company knows it all and hold the govt by the neck

Then this begs the question. Why does GT need so many people?

GT simply needs a handful of project managers. That's all.

Singapore govt should do what the Australian govt does and outsource the majority of technical expertise to the big consulting firms like PwC, Deloitte, Accenture etc. My relative works in an Australian tech consultancy and 75% of real work government work is done by outside vendors and contractors.

Singapore govt can even benefit from cost savings, because the market rates for vendors in this region (South East Asia) is much lower than in Western countries where labour cost is high.

Perhaps the only thing that can't be outsourced are systems and apps concerning national security-related areas.