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12-01-2017, 05:18 PM
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Not exactly true these days. CS and PS implemented same progression track for diploma and degree holders since last year. Diploma holders may start lower grade but eventually can reach same grade as degree holders.
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14-01-2017, 09:06 AM
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You will retire at 1 rank below local uni grads. The average NUS grad might retire at DD, but you'll retire at AD. Pay grade also slightly lower. As a private uni grad, you'll be rewarded better in the corporate world, don't join the civil service unless you're desperate.
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please dont anyhow say, there are tons of uniform and civilians officers out there with DL degree, all same track... unless u scholar than different track.. no such thing as NUS grad more increment and higher prospect, this i new generation gov, not those policeman wear short pants generation...
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15-01-2017, 04:11 PM
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but realistically it will be in agencies that local u grads do not want to go to, or jobs that local u grads do not want to take.
if you apply for say anything in MSF, MEWR or MCCY, you have a good chance.
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can share the reasons why local grads do not want to go to or take jobs from MSF / MEWR / MCCY?
thanks
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15-01-2017, 09:52 PM
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can share the reasons why local grads do not want to go to or take jobs from MSF / MEWR / MCCY?
thanks
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For the same reason why most grads would rather go EDB/ MAS compared to NHB or Sports Singapore. Visibility, career progression, prestige, ability to move on to senior level in pte sector etc. MEWR is still ok, MSF is the difficult one.
The nature of work and the type of people (externally usually lower/mid-lower income class, internally usually lower calibre of colleagues) isn't something everyone can do. After a few years easy to burn out if your heart is not there.
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16-01-2017, 12:15 PM
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For the same reason why most grads would rather go EDB/ MAS compared to NHB or Sports Singapore. Visibility, career progression, prestige, ability to move on to senior level in pte sector etc. MEWR is still ok, MSF is the difficult one.
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These are the same people who think banking/finance is the only worthwhile jobs out there.
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16-01-2017, 01:43 PM
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These are the same people who think banking/finance is the only worthwhile jobs out there.
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True, but this isn't about banking & finance. Even people with average grades and ambitions are averse to taking up a job that has to deal with lower levels of society. This results in mostly lower calibre of people who recruit & stay which turns off more good people. Vicious cycle.
The gov is trying very hard to improve the brand image and pay of the ministry, but not easy. But that aside, for a private grad it provides decent pay and job security which is way better than joining some SME or contract job.
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16-01-2017, 05:49 PM
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can share the reasons why local grads do not want to go to or take jobs from MSF / MEWR / MCCY?
thanks
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For the same reasons why Singaporeans want to go local uni and not pte uni.
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16-01-2017, 06:34 PM
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should be quite easy if good uni.
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18-01-2017, 04:49 PM
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Im an SIM-UOL grad working in MSF, started as MX13 like most local uni grad and same payscale. Definitely wont be high flyer but still better than private, volatile economy now.
Might be slightly difficult to get in, but if u never apply, u'll never know. As they say, you wont win the lottery without buying a ticket.
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Hi there,
Can I ask if your degree is related to your position in MSF? I am thinking of applying to ECDA but not sure what are the odds of getting in based on a private deg & masters.
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