How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can I ask which are the reputable groups? Realistically can go survive if they choose not to do HSG? I understand up till now, there are still GPS who are not Chas clinic (i.e refuse)

I tier accordingly to their business sustainability la.

1. most reputable is polyclinics. Iron rice bowl. you dun huat there, but u can slowly farm. No residency never mind. Can GDFM -> m.med -> FCFP and accordingly FP -> AC FP - C FP etc.
AC FP out earns most salaried GPs already even with 8-5 working workweek
Even GDFM FP makes a decent 150-160K a year for a start.


2. next will be large groups. 1st tier will be raffles, shenton etc. Second tier will be those like frontier, northwest , faith etc.
3rd tier will be those upstart like pinnacle, one care, mimed etc. Pinnacle go bid 39K for a HDB shop space. How to be sustainable? you become anchor for that clinic u also suck thumb wondering if your job is secured. Minmed wants a clinic in every MRT station. Onecare wants to open 1 clinic in every estate.


Market so saturated.
You can survive without being on healthier SG.
Just how well only.

Remember , as a private GP u got a job only as long as the clinic makes money for the owner. one day you dun see 30-40 patients, the clinic cannot break even.
when you work for the polyclinic, the polyclinic lose money also ok. you dun go download porn or molest girls like the doctors on the news, your job is secured.

Nowadays PGY2 or 3 breaking bonds to open clinic already.
market is saturated until like gout crystals with uric acid level of 600.
tophi already happening
what happen next? Pain lor...

every year 500-600 local graduate. 200-300 from overseas
Total training spots including FM at 300-350
Every year 300 excess MO without training positions
After a while go where? private GP lo
the tophi will only worsen
then private space become full what happens?
go back hospital la

So those hospital clinician position is not bad one,
You start early now PGY3 u enter, PGY 6 hit senior clinician, PGY 10 hit principal same pay as consultant

Go look up NHS. we are basically a repeat of them

hi can someone give me advice on where I can learn the common presentations seen in private GP land if I havent done OPS or ED postings. any specific resources / textbooks?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi can someone give me advice on where I can learn the common presentations seen in private GP land if I havent done OPS or ED postings. any specific resources / textbooks?

Goroll primary care medicine, 8th edition is a good start

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Goroll primary care medicine, 8th edition is a good start

Rubbish
Goroll is a pretentious textbook
Full of useless stuff

Murtagh is all you need.
U can also get Oxford handbook of general practice

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi can someone give me advice on where I can learn the common presentations seen in private GP land if I havent done OPS or ED postings. any specific resources / textbooks?

Guide to Essentials in Emergency Medicine 3rd Ed

thank you all! much appreciated

Can I ask what’s the going rate for locums per hour?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I tier accordingly to their business sustainability la.

1. most reputable is polyclinics. Iron rice bowl. you dun huat there, but u can slowly farm. No residency never mind. Can GDFM -> m.med -> FCFP and accordingly FP -> AC FP - C FP etc.
AC FP out earns most salaried GPs already even with 8-5 working workweek
Even GDFM FP makes a decent 150-160K a year for a start.


2. next will be large groups. 1st tier will be raffles, shenton etc. Second tier will be those like frontier, northwest , faith etc.
3rd tier will be those upstart like pinnacle, one care, mimed etc. Pinnacle go bid 39K for a HDB shop space. How to be sustainable? you become anchor for that clinic u also suck thumb wondering if your job is secured. Minmed wants a clinic in every MRT station. Onecare wants to open 1 clinic in every estate.


Market so saturated.
You can survive without being on healthier SG.
Just how well only.

Remember , as a private GP u got a job only as long as the clinic makes money for the owner. one day you dun see 30-40 patients, the clinic cannot break even.
when you work for the polyclinic, the polyclinic lose money also ok. you dun go download porn or molest girls like the doctors on the news, your job is secured.

Nowadays PGY2 or 3 breaking bonds to open clinic already.
market is saturated until like gout crystals with uric acid level of 600.
tophi already happening
what happen next? Pain lor...

every year 500-600 local graduate. 200-300 from overseas
Total training spots including FM at 300-350
Every year 300 excess MO without training positions
After a while go where? private GP lo
the tophi will only worsen
then private space become full what happens?
go back hospital la

So those hospital clinician position is not bad one,
You start early now PGY3 u enter, PGY 6 hit senior clinician, PGY 10 hit principal same pay as consultant

Go look up NHS. we are basically a repeat of them

Hi your "tiering" of private groups may have some truth 10-15 yrs ago.
Most of your "Tier 1 & 2" groups have downsized significantly, others are struggling financially or backed by disreputable foreign entities.
Perhaps you should have a chat with relevant folks in MOH, which group is now the most resourceful, potent and can execute national healthcare objectives in double quick time, even outdoing OPS ?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can I ask what’s the going rate for locums per hour?

have done 90 - 160 an hr

Originally Posted by bystander

Hi your "tiering" of private groups may have some truth 10-15 yrs ago.
Most of your "Tier 1 & 2" groups have downsized significantly, others are struggling financially or backed by disreputable foreign entities.
Perhaps you should have a chat with relevant folks in MOH, which group is now the most resourceful, potent and can execute national healthcare objectives in double quick time, even outdoing OPS ?

You write so much but no actual useful information provided.

What's the point?