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Old 17-03-2023, 05:15 PM
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Eh gps groups or ops facing lots of competition from asthestics. I seen even mmeders jump ship to asthestics.

Funnily I think my asthestics friends are more passionate Abt their work than actual fps (in ops) or gps.

Won't be surprised if asthestics become a big part of primary care in the future and get taught in medical school
Lolz. Sure
Ya. For someoneone who can't even spell aesthetic properly
Pretending to be a doctor prophesying that it will be taught in med school
Lol. Troll ish troll. U think they really teach medical students how to do surgery in medical school?

Sigh. I shall stop replying to them.
Waste of time.

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Old 17-03-2023, 09:47 PM
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Only one thing i can say.

A lot of sour public doctors justifying their decision to stay public.

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Old 17-03-2023, 10:40 PM
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I dont understand why ppl stay on in polyclinics. The number of CD/DD is limited and not everyone can climb all the way

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I dont understand why ppl stay on in polyclinics. The number of CD/DD is limited and not everyone can climb all the way
It's in the training/brain washing that all drs go through.

To be safe. Think of all the red flags (ie think of worst case scenarios and never forget what bad things could occur and watch out and be prepared for it)

So drs are essentially trained to be paranoid thinkers.

So staying in institution is safe. going out private where you set your own rules and standards to serve the business model plus have to satisfy the regulations and CPGs is daunting and unnatural to the training as a doctor.
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Only one thing i can say.

A lot of sour public doctors justifying their decision to stay public.

Not a doctor but have been reading this thread. Curious why many doctors prefer to stay in public if the working hours is bad and not paying well?

Unless polyclinic which have better life and justifiable?
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It's in the training/brain washing that all drs go through.

To be safe. Think of all the red flags (ie think of worst case scenarios and never forget what bad things could occur and watch out and be prepared for it)

So drs are essentially trained to be paranoid thinkers.

So staying in institution is safe. going out private where you set your own rules and standards to serve the business model plus have to satisfy the regulations and CPGs is daunting and unnatural to the training as a doctor.
has the ‘new generation’ learnt? is there the rumoured MASS EXODUS?
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Old 18-03-2023, 08:34 AM
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Not a doctor but have been reading this thread. Curious why many doctors prefer to stay in public if the working hours is bad and not paying well?

Unless polyclinic which have better life and justifiable?
Paying well is very subjective. I can assure you that mmed in ops can earn 200k/year easily. (Verified with many seniors of varying seniority and also with other fps in other clusters in my church cell group)

Only thing is there is eventually a ceiling/cap to how much you can earn unless you pursue fellowship. So question you have to ask is 200-250k/year enough for you and your family?

Private there is no ceiling. You start your clinic, you do well, can earn million (don't do well, can also go lose money). You work for a group, next mth you want go holiday or you aiming to buy a Chanel bag, just chiong more hours this month to get more $. But less time with family (coz need to work evenings, weekends etc)

I guess the same concept applies to specialist (but this want I not sure) public specialist are probably paid well, there is always a potential to earn more outside. (Potential not = guaranteed of course)
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Paying well is very subjective. I can assure you that mmed in ops can earn 200k/year easily. (Verified with many seniors of varying seniority and also with other fps in other clusters in my church cell group)

Only thing is there is eventually a ceiling/cap to how much you can earn unless you pursue fellowship. So question you have to ask is 200-250k/year enough for you and your family?

Private there is no ceiling. You start your clinic, you do well, can earn million (don't do well, can also go lose money). You work for a group, next mth you want go holiday or you aiming to buy a Chanel bag, just chiong more hours this month to get more $. But less time with family (coz need to work evenings, weekends etc)

I guess the same concept applies to specialist (but this want I not sure) public specialist are probably paid well, there is always a potential to earn more outside. (Potential not = guaranteed of course)
200k easily? haha. as usual take everything online with a pinch of salt.
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Its not 200 k
Gdfm FP is 160k
Mmed FP is 180-190k

200k is after few years and those who do lotsa admin
Is it worth it ? After hours admin on top of clinicals
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The worst thing is lack of patient ownership in ops fam med . U dont follow through the same patient , know them and ur family well . The sense of satisfaction from that is another level that you get as a heartland GP. Even chains u dont get that as chains are similar to polyclinic but in private setting

Chains vs ops , chains earn more still as u can get profit sharing , additional allowances and locum for the chain. Ability to locum and profit sharing is what really raises the income
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