How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ok, locums earn more. So, what's your point then? Are u asking everyone else to die?

Just wondering if there anything bad about locum financial wise? I understand if you are ambitious and want to be hod/cmb etc or like to do research then public sector might be good.
But if you want cold hard cash, is there anything that beats locum?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just wondering if there anything bad about locum financial wise? I understand if you are ambitious and want to be hod/cmb etc or like to do research then public sector might be good.
But if you want cold hard cash, is there anything that beats locum?

I guess, u cannot locum forever. and when u stop practicing u dont earn. but frankly, medicine is one of the worse ways to earn money.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I guess, u cannot locum forever. and when u stop practicing u dont earn. but frankly, medicine is one of the worse ways to earn money.

I mean i dunno abt you.

I find my life satisfying.
I get to talk and improve my patients life.
And im decently paid.

I also get to attend online conferences and zoom and stay up to date with my field

Academic rigour
Patient rapport and gratefulness
Decent renumeration

Medicine is really gd

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I mean i dunno abt you.

I find my life satisfying.
I get to talk and improve my patients life.
And im decently paid.

I also get to attend online conferences and zoom and stay up to date with my field

Academic rigour
Patient rapport and gratefulness
Decent renumeration

Medicine is really gd

Until you find your salary inflating away?

Hello,

Can I check whats the salary for a Fam Physician armed with a MMED (FM)? For those who start R1 training for FM right at MO1, would likely have about 2 more years of bond left with MOHH.
1) So what is the salary for these individuals?
2) After the bond with MOHH completes, would there be a difference in salary?
3) For those who chose to pursue fellowship for FCFPS, how is the salary like as well? Would it be as competitive as a Gen Med con in tertiary hospital per say.
4) I would also assume with FCFPS you would be able to take up even more appointments which also add up to your pay, am I right?

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hello,

Can I check whats the salary for a Fam Physician armed with a MMED (FM)? For those who start R1 training for FM right at MO1, would likely have about 2 more years of bond left with MOHH.
1) So what is the salary for these individuals?
2) After the bond with MOHH completes, would there be a difference in salary?
3) For those who chose to pursue fellowship for FCFPS, how is the salary like as well? Would it be as competitive as a Gen Med con in tertiary hospital per say.
4) I would also assume with FCFPS you would be able to take up even more appointments which also add up to your pay, am I right?

Thank you.

1. Yes by the time u take Ur mmed exam is Dec of pgy 5. So about 1.5 years away from end of bond pgy 6. I assume sinkie.
So 1 ho plus 5 years bond

2. U sign on RP with ops . RP salary better. If mo with mohh same pay

3. To be honest no choice alr. If u wanna stay in ops, must fcps.
Coz every tom dick harry is mmed. Earlier on alr got poster say gdfm is not enough for today. The inflation rate is exponential. Now baseline is mmed.
U don't fcps today, u will die tmr. Some young guy with fcps going to steal ur lunch.

If pte then don't care gdfm mmed or fcps all same.
But I highly suggest fcps if u wanna stay on ops. Minimum qualification soon. Some more now they gonna sab the fcps. So next time to be fm u must be a sab specialist. Cannot just fam med register.

Will be second class citizen in ops.

Ya so I suggest chiong all the way to fcps coz u young. And future proof

4. Last time fcps is big f. Is like polyclinic head. Now starting more and more. No guarantee they will offer u a consultant position. But as in part 3, we take fcps not because of consultant position but for future proof.

Just to keep up with the Joneses

Tldr.
Last time is mbbs is b f
Then gdfm
But gdfm era is over
Now is mmed baseline
But at the rate of new fcps created
Fcps will be new baseline

So the young guys better chiong all the way if u wanna stay on public

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hello,

Can I check whats the salary for a Fam Physician armed with a MMED (FM)? For those who start R1 training for FM right at MO1, would likely have about 2 more years of bond left with MOHH.
1) So what is the salary for these individuals?
2) After the bond with MOHH completes, would there be a difference in salary?
3) For those who chose to pursue fellowship for FCFPS, how is the salary like as well? Would it be as competitive as a Gen Med con in tertiary hospital per say.
4) I would also assume with FCFPS you would be able to take up even more appointments which also add up to your pay, am I right?

Thank you.

1. bond no bond no diff to your salary. when u switch over , diff cluster have diff policy. eg some if u sign after residency but before passing m.med , ur bond lengthens (don't ask me why. some weird logic)

2. no difference after bond end

3. again. fcfp salary no diff. your m.med pay, if u tick all the boxes with bonus already same same with gen med a.c to within 10 percent. remember this is 2 years and 1 exam lesser.( discounting sgh Im which pays more than anywhere else ). the next question as was asked before is ' so good meh'? and the answer is, ' you work fking hard for the pay'. Ac gen med take responsibility but has minions and more often pat can be more sick with complexity. polyclinic not so many complex cases but workload v high. burnt out not uncommon.
I generally like my pat to walk in to see me and walk out later. I don't have to deal with the nasty characters more than 15 minutes. anything I not sure, I refer , rather be labelled stupid, unecssary referral than have someone die at my hand

4. more arrows don't direct mean more pay. generally in life, it's when u give arrows that your pay increase. but with fcfp, u typically can do more la. talk can also a bit louder . education u have a share, want research also can be PI. u probably be lead on some speciality group.

no stress keep up with Jones. fcfp only 150 in sg. first 10 like glg, Cheong pk, Lee yew suan all grandfathered in. only 140 pple passed it so far.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1. bond no bond no diff to your salary. when u switch over , diff cluster have diff policy. eg some if u sign after residency but before passing m.med , ur bond lengthens (don't ask me why. some weird logic)

2. no difference after bond end

3. again. fcfp salary no diff. your m.med pay, if u tick all the boxes with bonus already same same with gen med a.c to within 10 percent. remember this is 2 years and 1 exam lesser.( discounting sgh Im which pays more than anywhere else ). the next question as was asked before is ' so good meh'? and the answer is, ' you work fking hard for the pay'. Ac gen med take responsibility but has minions and more often pat can be more sick with complexity. polyclinic not so many complex cases but workload v high. burnt out not uncommon.
I generally like my pat to walk in to see me and walk out later. I don't have to deal with the nasty characters more than 15 minutes. anything I not sure, I refer , rather be labelled stupid, unecssary referral than have someone die at my hand

4. more arrows don't direct mean more pay. generally in life, it's when u give arrows that your pay increase. but with fcfp, u typically can do more la. talk can also a bit louder . education u have a share, want research also can be PI. u probably be lead on some speciality group.

no stress keep up with Jones. fcfp only 150 in sg. first 10 like glg, Cheong pk, Lee yew suan all grandfathered in. only 140 pple passed it so far.

Cheong pk really got his style and substance one. As a junior i was really impressed with him when he gave us a talk 5 years ago. Really got substance. Hahah ya their era is founding fathers.
No examiners for fcps. So they grant themselves fellow and grandfather in i guess to be examiners.
Lys saw him a couple of times attending college dinners.

Ya the right to talk louder is very important.
Haha usually still will be soft spoken. But having that right to speak is impt.
But i feel should go all the way if you are youngster now.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

1. Yes by the time u take Ur mmed exam is Dec of pgy 5. So about 1.5 years away from end of bond pgy 6. I assume sinkie.
So 1 ho plus 5 years bond

2. U sign on RP with ops . RP salary better. If mo with mohh same pay

3. To be honest no choice alr. If u wanna stay in ops, must fcps.
Coz every tom dick harry is mmed. Earlier on alr got poster say gdfm is not enough for today. The inflation rate is exponential. Now baseline is mmed.
U don't fcps today, u will die tmr. Some young guy with fcps going to steal ur lunch.

If pte then don't care gdfm mmed or fcps all same.
But I highly suggest fcps if u wanna stay on ops. Minimum qualification soon. Some more now they gonna sab the fcps. So next time to be fm u must be a sab specialist. Cannot just fam med register.

Will be second class citizen in ops.

Ya so I suggest chiong all the way to fcps coz u young. And future proof

4. Last time fcps is big f. Is like polyclinic head. Now starting more and more. No guarantee they will offer u a consultant position. But as in part 3, we take fcps not because of consultant position but for future proof.

Just to keep up with the Joneses

Frankly speaking. Not sure its still worth it to practice as a doctor. I think i work in tech company and easily can beat doctors with our salary package many times over. May consider health tech company otherwise you will just be salaried worker