Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I don't necessarily think this is true. Speaking from experience, JLCs are more valued by Singapore firms than international firms. To put it bluntly, why the **** would an ang moh M&A partner care about an applicant's court experience?

JLC does provide some prestige, and beyond that it is a marker to prospective employers that the JLC is (1) very intelligent, and (2) very good at the law. As you can infer, these skillsets are more litigation focused. A transactional partner wouldn't necessarily be on the look out for these skillsets (where transactional experience counts as much as any legal expertise). If you were an M&A partner looking to hire, would you hire a JLC over someone who trained at a good M&A practice and has at least 1 year of practice under their belt? Trying to compare apples to apples here since I'm equating working at the courts as being as intellectually rigorous as working in a good M&A shop. I think that the JLC might find itself in an uphill battle - the partner would probably have a raw (but likely talented) product to work with, and that person might not necessarily catch on to transactional practice.

On the point about "top corporate and transactional partners in the international firms are ex-JLCs", my gut feel is that this is a bit overblown. The sample size is small. First, few JLCs go into corporate practice - most who leave the courts go into either AGC or a litigation practice. Second, many JLCs are hired into Singapore law firms (since it appears that Singapore law firms place more value on JLCs than international firms). So, taking that into account, the number of JLCs who both entered corporate practice and left to join international law firms is few to say the least. I'm happy to be corrected if more than 5 examples can be put forward - personally I've only ever seen one ex-JLC in an international firm as a corporate partner.

R u from A & G friend?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I don't necessarily think this is true. Speaking from experience, JLCs are more valued by Singapore firms than international firms. To put it bluntly, why the **** would an ang moh M&A partner care about an applicant's court experience?

JLC does provide some prestige, and beyond that it is a marker to prospective employers that the JLC is (1) very intelligent, and (2) very good at the law. As you can infer, these skillsets are more litigation focused. A transactional partner wouldn't necessarily be on the look out for these skillsets (where transactional experience counts as much as any legal expertise). If you were an M&A partner looking to hire, would you hire a JLC over someone who trained at a good M&A practice and has at least 1 year of practice under their belt? Trying to compare apples to apples here since I'm equating working at the courts as being as intellectually rigorous as working in a good M&A shop. I think that the JLC might find itself in an uphill battle - the partner would probably have a raw (but likely talented) product to work with, and that person might not necessarily catch on to transactional practice.

On the point about "top corporate and transactional partners in the international firms are ex-JLCs", my gut feel is that this is a bit overblown. The sample size is small. First, few JLCs go into corporate practice - most who leave the courts go into either AGC or a litigation practice. Second, many JLCs are hired into Singapore law firms (since it appears that Singapore law firms place more value on JLCs than international firms). So, taking that into account, the number of JLCs who both entered corporate practice and left to join international law firms is few to say the least. I'm happy to be corrected if more than 5 examples can be put forward - personally I've only ever seen one ex-JLC in an international firm as a corporate partner.

Seow Tzi Yang?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

R u from A & G friend?

KB from Paul Weiss?

saw the HSF people at the careeer fair. Seems like the TC contract is very good. International pay even before getting called. Just that their window is March onwards. Thoughts? Anyone know people there and what it's like?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

saw the HSF people at the careeer fair. Seems like the TC contract is very good. International pay even before getting called. Just that their window is March onwards. Thoughts? Anyone know people there and what it's like?

The Singapore arm is not great. Toxic culture and one of the directors apparently was dismissed from a previous place due to misconduct.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The Singapore arm is not great. Toxic culture and one of the directors apparently was dismissed from a previous place due to misconduct.

So juicy, what type of misconduct? Pray tell.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Perhaps. Some employers might not know that Cambridge gives out firsts to basically the top 25% and regard it as equal to an NUS FCH. But people in the know will value the NUS FCH more highly.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sour grapes cantab.
Got money go camb, buay paiseh put your phony Cantab MA on firm profile tsk

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Man u r balding. Use a better profile peekture.

s://siac.org.sg/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Thio_Shen_Yi_profile_jan2015.pdf
Jealous of TSY ah? Master of Arts (Law) from Cambridge University. Graduated in July 1991 with Second Class Honours (Upper Division).

Full head of hair for SYT to grab onto during cunnilingus. Any Cantab learned friends with baldness fetish?????

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So juicy, what type of misconduct? Pray tell.

Cannot. NDA signed liao. Everything else we say here is unverified hearsay

anybody's firm not closing full/half day for CNY eve?

some of the comments here... not that you need to censor yourself out of principle, but at least think about the consequence.

if the subject of your comment has 10s of lawyers working for him, i think he can spare a few doing nothing but pre-action discovery against the forum and telco to figure out who you are.

hope you used vpn.