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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Lmao at the "Harvard" guy nice troll.

Maybe Harvard guy is trying to catch the attention of NUS law girl.
Hilarious 😂 all the attention seeking posts!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Actually if you said you were said girl from local uni, why don’t list out how you can match pseudo Harvard law guy.

Harvard law guy suggested he was good because he spoke 2 additional European languages, had a piano licentiate and was a Shakespeare/hamlet buff.

I’m sure you had similar abilities non-academic skills as above.

Cough can you go on Tinder stop trying to hook up on a forum

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well said, and of course, thanks for putting this in context.
My intention was to advice the NUS grad who asked whether it made sense for him to do a LLM after grad from NUS. Clearly it depends where he/she was going to do it.
It’s a no brainer if it’s a LLM from Harv, Yale, Oxbridge.
Anything after that, you’ve to think hard weighing the cost and time as against PQE.

Yeah. PQE man. That's 1 year of salary + Fees of LLM (assuming we're responsible adults and don't ask for a mother father scholarship)

What is a low 2:1 from NUS? In terms of CAP

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well said, and of course, thanks for putting this in context.
My intention was to advice the NUS grad who asked whether it made sense for him to do a LLM after grad from NUS. Clearly it depends where he/she was going to do it.
It’s a no brainer if it’s a LLM from Harv, Yale, Oxbridge.
Anything after that, you’ve to think hard weighing the cost and time as against PQE.

For non-HYOC LLMs that's the only benefit. Same for undergraduate. Practise Singapore law (NUS, no Oxbridge as you are likely not to need it. The order is NUS = SMU > Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, UCL). In Singapore circles NUS is king.

Practise foreign law - look to the schools that are reputed there. Stanford is good placement for US firms.

For good options in both - Cambridge, Oxford, London. Obviously the higher you go the higher statistical probability you'll get a MC/SC job. NUS with LLM or NUS with high 2.1 and extracurriculars or NUS with FCH (you need to justify the gap as to why you're practising the law of another legal system. One way is to show you are really good at Singapore law, likely to catch on quick post-UK bar).

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well said, and of course, thanks for putting this in context.
My intention was to advice the NUS grad who asked whether it made sense for him to do a LLM after grad from NUS. Clearly it depends where he/she was going to do it.
It’s a no brainer if it’s a LLM from Harv, Yale, Oxbridge.
Anything after that, you’ve to think hard weighing the cost and time as against PQE.

For non-HYOC LLMs that's the only benefit. Same for undergraduate. Practise Singapore law (NUS, no Oxbridge as you are likely not to need it. The order is NUS = SMU > Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, UCL). In Singapore circles NUS is king.

Practise foreign law - look to the schools that are reputed there. Stanford is good placement for US firms.

For good options in both - Cambridge, Oxford, London. Obviously the higher you go the higher statistical probability you'll get a MC/SC job. Diversity is a myth, it is doublespeak for low prospects. If you have to rely on that concept to justify yourself, it probably does not bode well.

NUS with LLM or NUS with high 2.1 and extracurriculars or NUS with FCH (you need to justify the gap as to why you're practising the law of another legal system. One way is to show you are really good at Singapore law, likely to catch on quick post-UK bar).

[ Understanding diversity in the UK context - for a period of time before this diversity catch word, all barristers were firsts from Oxbridge and Dist BCL (majority still are. Try getting into Blackstone or Fountain without being blue enough). All Magic Circles hired in the past like White Shoes (yes, solicitors did not need law degrees but stark majority were Oxbridge Harrow Eton blue bloods doing subjects like history. They are likely to be your partners and senior partners). Basically, law was an old boys' club. ]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

For non-HYOC LLMs that's the only benefit. Same for undergraduate. Practise Singapore law (NUS, no Oxbridge as you are likely not to need it. The order is NUS = SMU > Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, UCL). In Singapore circles NUS is king.

Agree with everything except that NUS = SMU. They are not on the same pedestal.
NUS is WAY ahead of SMU. Oxbridge is definitely > SMU.
NUS is definitely not > Oxbridge: arguments might be made for parity but that’s about as far as it goes. NUS is definitely > LSE/UCL because NUS admissions is 3x more restrictive than LSE/UCL.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Agree with everything except that NUS = SMU. They are not on the same pedestal.
NUS is WAY ahead of SMU. Oxbridge is definitely > SMU.
NUS is definitely not > Oxbridge: arguments might be made for parity but that’s about as far as it goes. NUS is definitely > LSE/UCL because NUS admissions is 3x more restrictive than LSE/UCL.

Yeah delusional to think that NUS Law > Oxbridge Law.
Parity maybe. SMU is really a notch lower than NUS.
Even in terms of admission criteria, rankings, feedback from hiring partners, industry standing, reputation, etc.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yeah delusional to think that NUS Law > Oxbridge Law.
Parity maybe. SMU is really a notch lower than NUS.
Even in terms of admission criteria, rankings, feedback from hiring partners, industry standing, reputation, etc.

Yeah, I can personally attest to this. I have worked with SMU colleagues and they are nowhere as intelligent. It’s **** how we are clumped together with all these mediocre people in the workplace.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Agree with everything except that NUS = SMU. They are not on the same pedestal.
NUS is WAY ahead of SMU. Oxbridge is definitely > SMU.
NUS is definitely not > Oxbridge: arguments might be made for parity but that’s about as far as it goes. NUS is definitely > LSE/UCL because NUS admissions is 3x more restrictive than LSE/UCL.

Can't find real numbers for NUS admission rates.

Anyway, context was Singapore law. Practically, 4 years Singapore law vs 3 years BA Oxford English law. Who can advise on Singapore law aspects better?