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Old 22-04-2023, 04:07 PM
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Insane. No way should you do it.

There's no guarantee you will land a magic circle firm (which is the only outcome that's remotely worthwhile from an ROI perspective) even if you graduate with decent honours, and you'll be competing with young energetic bright fresh LLB grads half a decade younger than you.

If you don't land an MC or better job, the next and most likely outcome is to return to SG with your tail between your legs and settle for a Big 4 local law firm. And let me tell you, the work conditions and pay as a junior grunt in Big 4 is pretty much on par with a HO / MO in public healthcare in SG. And at 35 years old? I doubt anybody is cut out for that.

You will be regretting your decision to switch for a decade to come.

Sound advice.

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Old 22-04-2023, 04:43 PM
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Do you actually enjoy law and have reason to believe you will do well in it? Don't study it just for the money. Especially as a non-Oxbridge overseas grad, you might not get good jobs and your pay and working conditions might be even worse.
I have batchmates who got their law degree in Oxford. Came back to start as Big4 lolz, or at best BMWL or CC Cavenagh. Are these sub-par outcomes from Oxford spiral city grad?

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I have batchmates who got their law degree in Oxford. Came back to start as Big4 lolz, or at best BMWL or CC Cavenagh. Are these sub-par outcomes from Oxford spiral city grad?
Iíve never noticed those. Maybe cause the ones i know go to White & Case, Milbank, Dechert , Latham and other top US law firms in singapore

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Iíve never noticed those. Maybe cause the ones i know go to White & Case, Milbank, Dechert , Latham and other top US law firms in singapore
Wah u wanna flex on us sibo
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Wah u wanna flex on us sibo
flex also not like flexing their own career but about people they know. lmao


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Thanks for the advices, I think I will just stick it out in Medicine.

Is being a lawyer really that competitive in Singapore?

I do not really like harsh competition, that is why initially I chose to study Medicine in the UK. It wasnít really difficult to get in, and there really isnít an honours system, the MBBS degree was just a pass/fail.

Psychiatry training is actually quite chill, though the salary as a psychiatry trainee is pretty bad (around £3,200/month after PAYE and NI deductions)

Typically, my work rota is from 9am-4pm on most days, with the exception of 12 hour night shifts which thankfully only occurs 2-3 times a month.

We also frequently have quality improvement time off (days that we donít have to go to the hospital, basically just submitting review reports online at home). Annual paid leave is around 35 days a year.

There really isnít a fierce competition culture in psychiatry, postgraduate exam resits are allowed and wonít jeopardise your career prospects (although it might prolong your training duration).

MOHH is actively recruiting for psychiatrists, thereís a senior of mine (Indian UK-trained Psychiatrist) who got a job offer at IMH Singapore.

He told me that the basic pay package of a newly-qualified psychiatrist is around $12000/month excluding clinical teaching allowance and bonus. Though of course, the working hours are significantly lesser than doctors working in other specialties.

Most Singaporean psychiatrists do eventually leave for private practice, where the pay is largely variable.
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Thanks for the advices, I think I will just stick it out in Medicine.

Is being a lawyer really that competitive in Singapore?

I do not really like harsh competition, that is why initially I chose to study Medicine in the UK. It wasnít really difficult to get in, and there really isnít an honours system, the MBBS degree was just a pass/fail.

Psychiatry training is actually quite chill, though the salary as a psychiatry trainee is pretty bad (around £3,200/month after PAYE and NI deductions)

Typically, my work rota is from 9am-4pm on most days, with the exception of 12 hour night shifts which thankfully only occurs 2-3 times a month.

We also frequently have quality improvement time off (days that we donít have to go to the hospital, basically just submitting review reports online at home). Annual paid leave is around 35 days a year.

There really isnít a fierce competition culture in psychiatry, postgraduate exam resits are allowed and wonít jeopardise your career prospects (although it might prolong your training duration).

MOHH is actively recruiting for psychiatrists, thereís a senior of mine (Indian UK-trained Psychiatrist) who got a job offer at IMH Singapore.

He told me that the basic pay package of a newly-qualified psychiatrist is around $12000/month excluding clinical teaching allowance and bonus. Though of course, the working hours are significantly lesser than doctors working in other specialties.

Most Singaporean psychiatrists do eventually leave for private practice, where the pay is largely variable.
your current remuneration is comparable to a B4 NQ, but you definitely have better WLB. Notwithstanding the opportunity cost, there is also no point in doing a career switch since you will be earning this amount again after 5 years (3 yrs law school + RLT + 1 year TC) if you intend to return and practice in SG.
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Thanks for the advices, I think I will just stick it out in Medicine.

Is being a lawyer really that competitive in Singapore?

I do not really like harsh competition, that is why initially I chose to study Medicine in the UK. It wasnít really difficult to get in, and there really isnít an honours system, the MBBS degree was just a pass/fail.

Psychiatry training is actually quite chill, though the salary as a psychiatry trainee is pretty bad (around £3,200/month after PAYE and NI deductions)

Typically, my work rota is from 9am-4pm on most days, with the exception of 12 hour night shifts which thankfully only occurs 2-3 times a month.

We also frequently have quality improvement time off (days that we donít have to go to the hospital, basically just submitting review reports online at home). Annual paid leave is around 35 days a year.

There really isnít a fierce competition culture in psychiatry, postgraduate exam resits are allowed and wonít jeopardise your career prospects (although it might prolong your training duration).

MOHH is actively recruiting for psychiatrists, thereís a senior of mine (Indian UK-trained Psychiatrist) who got a job offer at IMH Singapore.

He told me that the basic pay package of a newly-qualified psychiatrist is around $12000/month excluding clinical teaching allowance and bonus. Though of course, the working hours are significantly lesser than doctors working in other specialties.

Most Singaporean psychiatrists do eventually leave for private practice, where the pay is largely variable.
never take advice from a forum because most people don't know about your actual background. the general rule is that if you want ST money and prestige, go for IB or law and consulting. If you want LT career satisfaction, go for medicine. If you want intellectual stimulation, go for tech and engineering
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never take advice from a forum
If you want intellectual stimulation, go for tech and engineering
Lol. Nuff said
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How is the affidavit for admission checked by the stakeholders? How extensive is the background check being conducted? How do they check for things like eg whether one has plagiarised or cheated in a past exam before? Do they check with each applicantís uni?
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