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Old 29-03-2024, 02:11 PM
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1) If HODs really want to stay in their school, they'll need to either step down or switch to teaching track (or… well, be old).

2) If they choose to retain their HOD appointment and switch school, they'll be forced to work and show their worth in the new environment. For those who aren't able to do so, a number will end up choosing to step down.

Overall, even if it doesn't solve 100% of the 'problem' you have outlined, it's quite likely to reduce it… no?
I think its a good iniative!! Its like lowkey telling KP to rotate or step down. Either ways it is a win-win. Some kps are too cocky and comfy in their position already.

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Old 29-03-2024, 03:26 PM
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Yes. 9th year geo 3 here. Throwing letter on 31 March
Are u a diploma grad ?

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Hi, I'm a BT, mid career and PGDE graduated in 2022 and ranked GEO3 upon confirmation. Level rep and house master for the past 2 years in this school. Just gotten my promotion to GEO 4 last week. Not FCH. Is my CPE good?
How old are you and what was your previous job role?

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True. The demands of being a teacher now has vastly increased since the 2010s. Those in KP position are privileged at home or do not have children. I see how they work non-stop and get arrows for everything and I feel sorry for them. But then I remember, that’s what they wanted. Those without privileges at home suffer a burnout. Take MCs often. Worth it?

Only the individual can answer that for him or herself.
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How old are you and what was your previous job role?
I'm past 40 and was a programmer team lead
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Looking at the recent posts, I just feel the need to share with younger educators that a forum is a forum and its not the most accurate source of information. A lot of these reviews given by poor performers are one-sided, and tbh its not easy to get a D grade these days. Often, the officer's lack of self-awareness is the problem, hence don't be too trusting of these online stories and end up feeling jaded, because honestly its not that bad for the majority.

On those that are performing or want to perform, as the long suffering SEO1 has alluded to, leadership in school is increasingly difficult, increasingly toothless, more consultative/conducive -- for good or bad. Much like a DM who cannot really enforce the rules anymore. Be prepared to be tested and face extremely difficult colleagues in ur path to move up the ladder.

Long story short, take stories here with pinch of salt and practice discernment.
I fully agree that it is not easy to get a D grade, but wondered why the RO and VP worked together in such extent to "kill" this new BT.


Also, I fully agreed that DMs are finding it more difficult to enforce discipline since the kids also know that the school can't do much to them. It also doesn't help that many parents just throw their ill-disciplined kids to the school and ensure they are in the school childcare as well in order to "handover" or "outsource" the teaching to the school. There are even many who signed up their children to endless enrichment classes during weekends and school holidays so that they can "hands off" their kids. There are simply too many parents who don't care or don't know how to teach their children. They expect miracles to happen when they send their kids into the school at 7am and fetch them at 6pm after child care. They don't monitor their work after they fetch them and don't pick up calls when teachers call them giving the excuse that they are busy at work. Some even use their children to take childcare leave by taking MCs so that they can skive from their work when their child is perfectly fine but unable to attend school to learn.

The world is sick now. Many parents want to just give birth but are unable to teach or hold the responsibility to educate their child. Then they blamed it all on teachers. However, teachers cannot complain. There are law and notices to protect doctors and nurses. However, who protect the teachers? The kids can throw tables and chairs and bits and hit the teachers, but the teachers cannot fight back.

The voices of teachers are ignored but the voices of parents are attended to straightaway. Where is the system to protect the teachers?
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Old 29-03-2024, 05:50 PM
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How much percentage of a pay jump from geo2 to geo3?
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Looking at the recent posts, I just feel the need to share with younger educators that a forum is a forum and its not the most accurate source of information. A lot of these reviews given by poor performers are one-sided, and tbh its not easy to get a D grade these days. Often, the officer's lack of self-awareness is the problem, hence don't be too trusting of these online stories and end up feeling jaded, because honestly its not that bad for the majority.

On those that are performing or want to perform, as the long suffering SEO1 has alluded to, leadership in school is increasingly difficult, increasingly toothless, more consultative/conducive -- for good or bad. Much like a DM who cannot really enforce the rules anymore. Be prepared to be tested and face extremely difficult colleagues in ur path to move up the ladder.

Long story short, take stories here with pinch of salt and practice discernment.

Agree with this. Im on my school’s ranking panel for 6 yrs and in that time I have never ever seen a D being given. Even C- is given with huge reluctance and after a lot of debate.

To the younger officers out there, take what you read here with a pinch of salt. Your KPs are not out to get you.
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Agree with this. Im on my school’s ranking panel for 6 yrs and in that time I have never ever seen a D being given. Even C- is given with huge reluctance and after a lot of debate.

To the younger officers out there, take what you read here with a pinch of salt. Your KPs are not out to get you.
but that’s you n at best your school. some humans are vile. u telling me KPs are saints?
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Agree with this. Im on my school’s ranking panel for 6 yrs and in that time I have never ever seen a D being given. Even C- is given with huge reluctance and after a lot of debate.

To the younger officers out there, take what you read here with a pinch of salt. Your KPs are not out to get you.
Same situation in my school. We have never given a D and for C-, we are trying to cut to the minimal by giving low performers C but with a lower quantum rather than C-
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