Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I’m wondering... I’m less than $100 away from the ceiling. What happens when I hit the ceiling and I’m not promoted? I will no longer receive MI until I get promoted?

You will receive MI until you hit the ceiling. Once you hit the ceiling, you will no longer receive MI until you are promoted, or there is an increase in the ceiling (e.g. service-wide salary adjustments).

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not happy you can quit. I am getting $7+k as a HOT.

Tell that to the GEO3s in this thread who have been GEO3 since 2014, 2015, 2016. Everybody knows that once you are out of BT-ship, your deployment and workload is almost the same as geo4/5 HOTs. So if GEO3s demonstrate their ability to perform "at the next level" for years and years (which is the usual (non-)answer when you ask RO/SLs "how do I get promoted?"), why does the system retard their progression?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

then tell me what is fair wage? similar to wages of private sector managers and vps?

No need to be, but ask yourself how many hours a day you spend working, including after you leave the school compound? How many hours per week can you truly 'disconnect from work'? I bet you have marking and MYE paper setting to do this weekend.

Drawing 4-5k a month to bust your balls for 60-80 hours a week is not an outrageously low salary, enough to have a modest living, but it is based on the dangerous assumption that passion and love for the job is enough to keep people going indefinitely and ignore comparisons to the outside world. It might, for their first few fiery years, but after that we have to look at how to retain people who might have market value outside (surprise surprise, some teachers didn't join teaching just because they had no choice and needed a dumping ground).

Originally Posted by Unregistered

No need to be, but ask yourself how many hours a day you spend working, including after you leave the school compound? How many hours per week can you truly 'disconnect from work'? I bet you have marking and MYE paper setting to do this weekend.

Drawing 4-5k a month to bust your balls for 60-80 hours a week is not an outrageously low salary, enough to have a modest living, but it is based on the dangerous assumption that passion and love for the job is enough to keep people going indefinitely and ignore comparisons to the outside world. It might, for their first few fiery years, but after that we have to look at how to retain people who might have market value outside (surprise surprise, some teachers didn't join teaching just because they had no choice and needed a dumping ground).

Then in this case, leave teaching so that moe can draw in new blood. There are plenty of aspiring applicants who are dying to get it but it's very hard now..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyone has all the salary ranges for teachers?

Someone shared this last time. Don't know how accurate it is.

GEO1 (Untrained): ? (non-graduates start here)
GEO (Trained): 1600 - 2730
GEO2 (Untrained): 2000-4340 (graduates start here)
GEO2 (Trained): 2538-4500
GEO3: 3515 -5616
GEO4: 4545-7271
GEO5: 4903-7845 (max salary grade for standard teacher)
SEO1: 5651-9064 (min. LH/SH/ST)
SEO2: 7236-10766 (min. HOD/LT)
SEO3: 8748-11232 (+9%?) (min. HOD/MT)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Someone shared this last time. Don't know how accurate it is.

GEO1 (Untrained): ? (non-graduates start here)
GEO (Trained): 1600 - 2730
GEO2 (Untrained): 2000-4340 (graduates start here)
GEO2 (Trained): 2538-4500
GEO3: 3515 -5616
GEO4: 4545-7271
GEO5: 4903-7845 (max salary grade for standard teacher)
SEO1: 5651-9064 (min. LH/SH/ST)
SEO2: 7236-10766 (min. HOD/LT)
SEO3: 8748-11232 (+9%?) (min. HOD/MT)

last one is wrong... HOD max out at SEO2 not SEO3

How about collating latest MI instead?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Someone shared this last time. Don't know how accurate it is.

GEO1 (Untrained): ? (non-graduates start here)
GEO (Trained): 1600 - 2730
GEO2 (Untrained): 2000-4340 (graduates start here)
GEO2 (Trained): 2538-4500
GEO3: 3515 -5616
GEO4: 4545-7271
GEO5: 4903-7845 (max salary grade for standard teacher)
SEO1: 5651-9064 (min. LH/SH/ST)
SEO2: 7236-10766 (min. HOD/LT)
SEO3: 8748-11232 (+9%?) (min. HOD/MT)

GEO2 to GEO5 ranges are accurate as of now. Like above commenter said, HOD/YH estab grade is SEO2. To hit SEO3, minimum VP(EO), MT, DD(EO) or equivalent.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

last one is wrong... HOD max out at SEO2 not SEO3

How about collating latest MI instead?

SEO 3 is the senior large portfolio HOD. Not all HODs are the same.

Why bother with collating MI? Not like we can change anything. And the cut this year is (hopefully) one-off.

Am more interested in knowing the ceilings for various grades to aid with long-term planning…

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How about collating latest MI instead?

ok so basically geo5 is like mx11