Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi,

Has been in schools for quite some time and not sure how does the position in HQ work.
What's is the equivalent of the post of SH, HOD, VP to those in HQ? Heard before that there are AD, DD etc?

Can someone enlighten me on that? And AD means assistant director, DD is deputy director?

Also, is there a possibility of switching from our EO scheme to MX scheme if we wish to cross over to be in civil service?

Thanks in advance.

SH / HOD -> Officer / Senior Officer / Senior Manager / Lead Manager depending on title and division, and also your sub-grade.

HOD can become AD, but roles are rare and probably quite competitive. AD can also become Senior AD once they clear VP interview. Deputy Director are kind of VP equivalent, but there are also Senior DD who are previous principals also.

Decided to quit after getting year end bonus. What's the best time to throw letter? Read some previous comments that bonus will be clawed back if throw to early? Is it a good idea to talk to vp during Dec pre-year meeting and leave by end Jan?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

SH / HOD -> Officer / Senior Officer / Senior Manager / Lead Manager depending on title and division, and also your sub-grade.

HOD can become AD, but roles are rare and probably quite competitive. AD can also become Senior AD once they clear VP interview. Deputy Director are kind of VP equivalent, but there are also Senior DD who are previous principals also.

When moving from VP or P position in a school, to HQ, the officer's subgrade is largely what determines their designation; this is especially wide-ranging for Principals, who can be anywhere from Superscale H to E.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Decided to quit after getting year end bonus. What's the best time to throw letter? Read some previous comments that bonus will be clawed back if throw to early? Is it a good idea to talk to vp during Dec pre-year meeting and leave by end Jan?

Last day of svc 31 dec can alr.

Dont think ur sch will like it if u leave mid term in Jan?
Not that it matters..
But also it is too close n too tempting to stay till u get PB.

There’s never a ‘right’ time to move out. The bonus system is engineered to hang a piece of meat in front of you like a pet. We just keep on moving ahead until it’s too late and market value is too low.

Make the best out what you have now. If really want to transit, maybe now is a good time.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

There’s never a ‘right’ time to move out. The bonus system is engineered to hang a piece of meat in front of you like a pet. We just keep on moving ahead until it’s too late and market value is too low.

Make the best out what you have now. If really want to transit, maybe now is a good time.

For those who have been thinking for very long whether to leave, and have clear goals outside of MOE...

Best time to jump ship was yesterday.

Next best time to jump ship is today.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Based on 2021 geo4 and 2023 HQ, I don't suppose you were a KP before going to HQ, right? If so, depending on your current designation, you are only likely to get your SEO1 after returning to school and spending a year or two as a KP.

Should have taken up a KP role before going HQ, if you ask me... but your progression is not bad.

Is it necessary to have a ‘KP’ title attached. I have seen KPs (SH) level still stuck at GEO 4 even after 4 yrs. How can one be able to progress in such a speed even though non KP and scholar? Seems abit implausible no?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Last day of svc 31 dec can alr.

Dont think ur sch will like it if u leave mid term in Jan?
Not that it matters..
But also it is too close n too tempting to stay till u get PB.

Do you think people who want to leave for good will care about whether the school still likes them or not?

Some people who already confirmed leaving will be in ORD mood, whack random MC CCL PCL etc and so on.

No consequences for them right?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Do you think people who want to leave for good will care about whether the school still likes them or not?

Some people who already confirmed leaving will be in ORD mood, whack random MC CCL PCL etc and so on.

No consequences for them right?

Unless you’re very sure you’re never coming back or maybe you’re migrating overseas, golden rule of thumb in the workplace is don’t burn bridges lol. Maybe one day your VP becomes your director at your new ministry then how? Civil service so small leh

Also reflects badly on your work ethic

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Unless you’re very sure you’re never coming back or maybe you’re migrating overseas, golden rule of thumb in the workplace is don’t burn bridges lol. Maybe one day your VP becomes your director at your new ministry then how? Civil service so small leh

Also reflects badly on your work ethic

boomers retiring or leaving early (and not planning to work anymore) wont care about these lol