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Old 23-10-2022, 01:03 PM
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I can understand where you're coming from and I do support your response towards this. Thankfully the students weren't exactly shortchanged since other teachers in the CCA made up for the duties and roles of that particular teacher. On that note, it wasn't very fair towards the other teachers.

However, if we do look at the big picture, the supposedly relaxing, slack or attractive CCAs are usually hogged by the old or older teachers who refuse to budge, while the new or younger ones get thrown into the sports or UGs simply because they are "younger and more energetic".

What's worse is that once they're in a UG, it's very unlikely for them to be able to transfer to non UG CCAs since they are already "trained".

These factors really leave the younger teachers with very few choices. Is that really fair to them then?
On the other hand, these teachers who take the relaxed CCAs should also keep quiet and don't whine about not getting promoted. If u want to coast, then be prepared to have your promotions reflect that.



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How cute. A Geo3 who thinks that they do the most among teachers. A bit delusional you know.
Definitely not the most, but a great deal of work especially in comparison to the so-called more “senior” teachers or HODs who pretend that they have so much work going on for them but actually just spending much time playing politics, sucking up, bootlicking, bossing around the junior staff, etc

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So to the younger people, be flexible, but be daring to fight for what you want too.
Unfortunately how schools work is that being daring and vocal often leads to minimal to no changes to the teachers’ career. Unless you mean raising a complaint officially to MOE and minister then perhaps this might teach schools to wake up their idea and start considering teachers, especially junior ones who still have a long runway ahead of them!

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It’s frankly quite scary how many scholars these days are being poached by private sector or other parts of the public sector.

And they’re the good ones who actually are quite decent in the classroom.
Because when you compare between the scholars now and the scholars back then, the younger ones are getting the short end of the stick, and there’s no shortage of employers happy to take them whether it be because of their academic record or their leadership position or experiences when in HQ/other ministries. Truth be told, teaching experience counts for nothing especially to private sector employers.


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Under moe system, darin n vocal means chance of gettin blacklisted
Waa serious ahhh working with moe sounds worse like living in hell sia
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Urge the younger officers to take these negative views with a pinch of salt. If you don’t spend the years to gain the experience, how can you guide the younger ones when you are more senior?
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Urge the younger officers to take these negative views with a pinch of salt. If you don’t spend the years to gain the experience, how can you guide the younger ones when you are more senior?
in your opinion, do u think teachers will end up being chased out of the ministry voluntarily rather than stick it out to stay and mentor the younger teachers?
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in your opinion, do u think teachers will end up being chased out of the ministry voluntarily rather than stick it out to stay and mentor the younger teachers?
given how competitive and/or lucrative the private market is, the younger teachers are changing or switching out teaching in MOE to e.g. tuition, academic-related for-profits organisations.
unless moe one day really decides to overpay the teachers to truly/sincerely attract the talents (taking reference how the member of parliaments or c-suite people are given certain pegged allowance in an organisation), then the meaningfulness/passion in teachers can also be comparable compensated. the intrinsic motivations behind teaching can be stretched and thinned out in this kind of capitalistic society.
then again, there are many young people who don't mind joining to get some little experience and then quit. so the MOE has no lack of people to fill headcount - teaching positions are really dispensable. heart-wise the organisation has a long way to work on.
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given how competitive and/or lucrative the private market is, the younger teachers are changing or switching out teaching in MOE to e.g. tuition, academic-related for-profits organisations.
unless moe one day really decides to overpay the teachers to truly/sincerely attract the talents (taking reference how the member of parliaments or c-suite people are given certain pegged allowance in an organisation), then the meaningfulness/passion in teachers can also be comparable compensated. the intrinsic motivations behind teaching can be stretched and thinned out in this kind of capitalistic society.
then again, there are many young people who don't mind joining to get some little experience and then quit. so the MOE has no lack of people to fill headcount - teaching positions are really dispensable. heart-wise the organisation has a long way to work on.
But the focus isn't money. I will happily draw pre-Oct 2022, or even pre-2015 salary if I didn't have to ensure that the tentage vendor delivers up to spec, or entertain some grassroots leader that I don't really care about on a Saturday morning. We will give our everything in our direct work with students (and parents, to an extent). What we resent is padding the KPIs of middle and senior management with things that have nothing to do with the heart for our students.

So enough with all this nonsense about teachers being hungry for money, having no intrinsic motivation, and whatnot. Think about what our job has become.. what it has evolved into over the years.
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