Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Give some reasons why they should like group audit, construction, and inventory audit? If all paid the same, private, non-consolidated, non-complex entities, or small groups are better.

Scare don't know how to do construction audit?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

get lost malaysian jhk.
3.5 _|_ enough to shut u up for good
barking d0g coming my country to build it
thanks

Chill Bro, more than half your colleagues all Malaysians

Come in see see

Saw the news Big 4 increasing A1 salary

Why all the increase happen after I am gone

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I can understand the frustration and disillusionment you are feeling after leaving the audit profession. It’s clear that you have valid points about the issues within the management structure and the overall quality standards. However, I believe it’s crucial to address some aspects constructively and encourage open communication.

First, if you feel so strongly about the problems within the firm, why didn't you provide feedback to management? Constructive criticism from the ground up is vital for any organisation to improve. If management doesn’t know what’s going on at the operational level, how can they address these issues?

Your insights and experiences could have been invaluable in shaping better policies and practices. I get that it might feel like management isn’t listening, but change often starts with persistent voices willing to speak up. If you are introverted, find alternative ways to communicate such as through detailed emails, anonymous feedback, or even small group discussions. It’s about ensuring that your voice is heard.

Everyone has a part to play in maintaining the quality and standards of our profession. If we remain silent about the issues we face, we inadvertently become part of the problem. Instead of just walking away and venting your frustrations afterwards, take action while you are still within the system. Propose solutions, highlight the gaps, and collaborate with your peers to present a unified front. You might be surprised at the positive changes that can occur when management is made aware of the ground realities.

By choosing to leave without trying to address these issues, you are essentially running away from the problem rather than confronting it. It’s easy to point out flaws and then step back, but it takes courage and commitment to stay and work towards a solution. If everyone took the same approach, there would never be any progress or improvement in any organisation.

I hope you consider this perspective and realise the importance of open communication and feedback. It’s through collective effort and dialogue that we can hope to see meaningful changes in our profession.

I am the OP, and all i can say is that if you truly believe i have not tried to give constructive feedback despite opening with the fact that i did not hate the job and did not mind the hours, you must be quite thick in the skull.

And also if you truly believe that despite the big4 being renowned for having a flat operating structure where the EP is just 4 ranks away from the assistants and dont know about the operational issues, you must be quite thick in the skull.

The fact is they know and just have no incentive to deal with the problem because there is no ROE after their tenure ends. And any good auditor worth his salt is a master at delaying problem solving and leaving it for the next person to clean up. Can't solve this problem this year? nevermind we try again next year, ask the team to solve. GC /impairment issue, nevermind discharge and see again next year, no reason to lose the billings from this client anyway.

Makes me think you are not in the big4, if you are take off your goggles, at the very least come to terms with the reality of things, that it is just a cut-throat business

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Give some reasons why they should like group audit, construction, and inventory audit? If all paid the same, private, non-consolidated, non-complex entities, or small groups are better.

Because if you are far sighted, you will know that the more complex the engagement, the more takeaways you have that adds to your resume and skills, it will be easier to find job if you can list examples of you dealing with complex accounting treatment and complex group businesses (and you will be able to because you did the work on it) rather than being a master of non-complex entities? im sure thats impressive to a grand total of 0 people.

This is a really strange question. and once again just reflects the type of people inside now. Back in the day doing a complex engagement was like a badge of honor (a toxic trait yes), but the truth is those people who did more challenging engagements survive better in their later years of audit because they dealt with more ****, rather than those who made it to manager and were clueless because they were just "good" at doing simple engagements.

A simple exercise you can do is to look at those who did the toughest jobs in your dept and see where they all went or how "zai" people view them. Chances are compared to those who did the easy jobs, they are in much better position within the firm or even outside the firm. Investing in yourself pays the highest dividends. But of course different folks different strokes.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Because if you are far sighted, you will know that the more complex the engagement, the more takeaways you have that adds to your resume and skills, it will be easier to find job if you can list examples of you dealing with complex accounting treatment and complex group businesses (and you will be able to because you did the work on it) rather than being a master of non-complex entities? im sure thats impressive to a grand total of 0 people.

This is a really strange question. and once again just reflects the type of people inside now. Back in the day doing a complex engagement was like a badge of honor (a toxic trait yes), but the truth is those people who did more challenging engagements survive better in their later years of audit because they dealt with more ****, rather than those who made it to manager and were clueless because they were just "good" at doing simple engagements.

A simple exercise you can do is to look at those who did the toughest jobs in your dept and see where they all went or how "zai" people view them. Chances are compared to those who did the easy jobs, they are in much better position within the firm or even outside the firm. Investing in yourself pays the highest dividends. But of course different folks different strokes.

maybe people thought they can clock 3 years audit experience with audit of trading and rendering of services type of audit. i.e.Those low risk audit jobs. Maybe they thought 3 years audit experience in trading company is the same as 3 years audit experience in group audit/construction audit

Sh1tposting about our bosses is fun but let's acknowledge that not everyone can be bosses. hahahaha

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sh1tposting about our bosses is fun but let's acknowledge that not everyone can be bosses. hahahaha

I need serious advice.

I am 1 paper away from completing my CA this June (hoping I pass)
Currently facing the hauntings by bosses including EL to rush for June date lines.

While they are aware of my exams, there doesn’t seem to have a change of expectations to be on the job despite being leave too.

I am torned between studying and rushing out the engagement. Appreciate some advice from the seniors out there. (E.g how often should I be online ant work on days leading up to exam) And yes, unfortunately we have resourcing crunch.

Ps. I am 7 days away to the paper.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I need serious advice.

I am 1 paper away from completing my CA this June (hoping I pass)
Currently facing the hauntings by bosses including EL to rush for June date lines.

While they are aware of my exams, there doesn’t seem to have a change of expectations to be on the job despite being leave too.

I am torned between studying and rushing out the engagement. Appreciate some advice from the seniors out there. (E.g how often should I be online ant work on days leading up to exam) And yes, unfortunately we have resourcing crunch.

Ps. I am 7 days away to the paper.

Thanks.

I’ll be blunt - how smart are you? Did you graduate with at least second upper honors?

If you know you are smart - just focus on your engagements and go wing the exams. You only need a pass anyway. No need to go all out or 100%. Works if you’re the type to be playing DOTA night before finals but still get A+ win book prize top in module in NTU.

If you not confident you can pass with minimum studies - then rebalance your time. Tell your supervisors you got exams to prepare for. Just ask them if they are going to compensate your exam fees if you fail.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I’ll be blunt - how smart are you? Did you graduate with at least second upper honors?

If you know you are smart - just focus on your engagements and go wing the exams. You only need a pass anyway. No need to go all out or 100%. Works if you’re the type to be playing DOTA night before finals but still get A+ win book prize top in module in NTU.

If you not confident you can pass with minimum studies - then rebalance your time. Tell your supervisors you got exams to prepare for. Just ask them if they are going to compensate your exam fees if you fail.

can’t be too smart if he doesn’t know the difference between a date line and a deadline.