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First of all, you need to learn how to write more concisely and to the point.

There are so many fillers, unrelated stuff, disclaimers and apologies that it is hard to know what is your main point.

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I've read most of the discussions on this thread as I am a highly anxious prospective SIM UOL student who is most uncertain about the outcome of his future.It goes without saying that local university students indeed are more superior than those studying in private institutions and let's face it if all of us were given a chance to choose any university of our predilection then almost all of us who have commented on this thread including those from private institutions would choose a local U over a private one.

The local university focuses on equipping their graduates with all the essential qualities needed to cope in today's world and there can be no comparison with that of a private institution because one must understand that it's after all a distance learning program awarded by an institution which have collaborations with that respective university.If that university had its own campus in Singapore then it would be a different story altogether.

That being said I would also like to point out that even though institution A might be lower than institution B,that doesn't make the product of the institution A more inferior to the product of institution B.This depends solely on the individuals capacity and capabilities.

From my understanding in this thread,even before proceeding to study at SIM UOL,I only acknowledged one class for which every graduate of SIM should graduate with,in order to give him or her that slight chance to compare themselves with our local peers:A first class honours.Of course I do acknowledge that there are a few "gifted candidates" who probably with Good networking skills or interpersonal skills have landed in places one might think it's absurd for their calibre but it may in fact be true.

The world we live in today is a complicated one but I want to debate about something more sophisticated than debating a simple issue "Local vs Private". There have been many speculations about how SIM UOL doesn't provide students with in depth knowledge about the respective subjects due to lack of coursework and other related factors and thus if a THIRD class local U grad were to enroll in SIM UOL,he or she may as well ace the system since it would be easier for him or her to jump on a planet with lesser gravity than the planet he or she was previously in.This may be true or untrue,it's after all just an assumption.But how about we look at it this way,Will a student from a local U who graduate with a 3rd class honours be accepted into a masters program at LSE(Main campus)? I mean why not give that student a chance because if he or she had instead enrolled in SIM UOL his or her third class honours in a local U would be anyway tantamount to a first class in SIM-UOL.It would be the most inane thing a prestigious University like LSE can do if such an institution permits a student with a third class honours to enroll in their program.With some research and live examples that move around us,No one can be oblivious and dispute the fact that a first class SIM UOL grad cannot get into LSE for their masters program.This in turn shows that a Third class honours student from a local U is not superior than a first class honours student from SIM-UOL program because if the third class student was admitted into LSE then it would be flagrant that LSE is considered as a Third class institute which can never happen.

I think once a First Class SIM UOL grad has equipped themselves with work experience and a masters from top institutions(more superior than those of our Local U's) he or she can be comparable to a local U grad and at least consider themselves on par with not the real elites(of course some may as well depending on circumstances) but the "ones" who consider themselves Good local Uni grads.

I also do acknowledge that one may discord my above opinions but hey that's part of this process,do debate with me on this issue.

Thank you for sparing time to read my thoughts.Please do correct me if I'm wrong to say what I said in anyway and I am sincerely sorry to those I might have offended in any way what so ever.

Have a good day!
(The above content is entirely based on my thoughts and opinions)
Sorry, but what's the point of this diatribe?

Most people here have real life specific challenges looking and/or negotiating salary for jobs, I doubt they are interested in reading / replying to your various postulations over a smattering of vaguely defined topics.

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I've read most of the discussions on this thread as I am a highly anxious prospective SIM UOL student who is most uncertain about the outcome of his future.It goes without saying that local university students indeed are more superior than those studying in private institutions and let's face it if all of us were given a chance to choose any university of our predilection then almost all of us who have commented on this thread including those from private institutions would choose a local U over a private one.

The local university focuses on equipping their graduates with all the essential qualities needed to cope in today's world and there can be no comparison with that of a private institution because one must understand that it's after all a distance learning program awarded by an institution which have collaborations with that respective university.If that university had its own campus in Singapore then it would be a different story altogether.

That being said I would also like to point out that even though institution A might be lower than institution B,that doesn't make the product of the institution A more inferior to the product of institution B.This depends solely on the individuals capacity and capabilities.

From my understanding in this thread,even before proceeding to study at SIM UOL,I only acknowledged one class for which every graduate of SIM should graduate with,in order to give him or her that slight chance to compare themselves with our local peers:A first class honours.Of course I do acknowledge that there are a few "gifted candidates" who probably with Good networking skills or interpersonal skills have landed in places one might think it's absurd for their calibre but it may in fact be true.

The world we live in today is a complicated one but I want to debate about something more sophisticated than debating a simple issue "Local vs Private". There have been many speculations about how SIM UOL doesn't provide students with in depth knowledge about the respective subjects due to lack of coursework and other related factors and thus if a THIRD class local U grad were to enroll in SIM UOL,he or she may as well ace the system since it would be easier for him or her to jump on a planet with lesser gravity than the planet he or she was previously in.This may be true or untrue,it's after all just an assumption.But how about we look at it this way,Will a student from a local U who graduate with a 3rd class honours be accepted into a masters program at LSE(Main campus)? I mean why not give that student a chance because if he or she had instead enrolled in SIM UOL his or her third class honours in a local U would be anyway tantamount to a first class in SIM-UOL.It would be the most inane thing a prestigious University like LSE can do if such an institution permits a student with a third class honours to enroll in their program.With some research and live examples that move around us,No one can be oblivious and dispute the fact that a first class SIM UOL grad cannot get into LSE for their masters program.This in turn shows that a Third class honours student from a local U is not superior than a first class honours student from SIM-UOL program because if the third class student was admitted into LSE then it would be flagrant that LSE is considered as a Third class institute which can never happen.

I think once a First Class SIM UOL grad has equipped themselves with work experience and a masters from top institutions(more superior than those of our Local U's) he or she can be comparable to a local U grad and at least consider themselves on par with not the real elites(of course some may as well depending on circumstances) but the "ones" who consider themselves Good local Uni grads.

I also do acknowledge that one may discord my above opinions but hey that's part of this process,do debate with me on this issue.

Thank you for sparing time to read my thoughts.Please do correct me if I'm wrong to say what I said in anyway and I am sincerely sorry to those I might have offended in any way what so ever.

Have a good day!
(The above content is entirely based on my thoughts and opinions)
This is way too long for a few simple points ...

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Old 30-07-2015, 11:38 PM
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Wow, this is a clear case of someone trying too hard to impress but ending up with verbal diarrhoea and revealing all his flaws in writing.

Of course, one may argue that it is quite a feat to have so many words, yet with so little substance. Then again, if there is one thing in abundance, it is grammar mistakes.


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I've read most of the discussions on this thread as I am a highly anxious prospective SIM UOL student who is most uncertain about the outcome of his future.It goes without saying that local university students indeed are more superior than those studying in private institutions and let's face it if all of us were given a chance to choose any university of our predilection then almost all of us who have commented on this thread including those from private institutions would choose a local U over a private one.

The local university focuses on equipping their graduates with all the essential qualities needed to cope in today's world and there can be no comparison with that of a private institution because one must understand that it's after all a distance learning program awarded by an institution which have collaborations with that respective university.If that university had its own campus in Singapore then it would be a different story altogether.

That being said I would also like to point out that even though institution A might be lower than institution B,that doesn't make the product of the institution A more inferior to the product of institution B.This depends solely on the individuals capacity and capabilities.

From my understanding in this thread,even before proceeding to study at SIM UOL,I only acknowledged one class for which every graduate of SIM should graduate with,in order to give him or her that slight chance to compare themselves with our local peers:A first class honours.Of course I do acknowledge that there are a few "gifted candidates" who probably with Good networking skills or interpersonal skills have landed in places one might think it's absurd for their calibre but it may in fact be true.

The world we live in today is a complicated one but I want to debate about something more sophisticated than debating a simple issue "Local vs Private". There have been many speculations about how SIM UOL doesn't provide students with in depth knowledge about the respective subjects due to lack of coursework and other related factors and thus if a THIRD class local U grad were to enroll in SIM UOL,he or she may as well ace the system since it would be easier for him or her to jump on a planet with lesser gravity than the planet he or she was previously in.This may be true or untrue,it's after all just an assumption.But how about we look at it this way,Will a student from a local U who graduate with a 3rd class honours be accepted into a masters program at LSE(Main campus)? I mean why not give that student a chance because if he or she had instead enrolled in SIM UOL his or her third class honours in a local U would be anyway tantamount to a first class in SIM-UOL.It would be the most inane thing a prestigious University like LSE can do if such an institution permits a student with a third class honours to enroll in their program.With some research and live examples that move around us,No one can be oblivious and dispute the fact that a first class SIM UOL grad cannot get into LSE for their masters program.This in turn shows that a Third class honours student from a local U is not superior than a first class honours student from SIM-UOL program because if the third class student was admitted into LSE then it would be flagrant that LSE is considered as a Third class institute which can never happen.

I think once a First Class SIM UOL grad has equipped themselves with work experience and a masters from top institutions(more superior than those of our Local U's) he or she can be comparable to a local U grad and at least consider themselves on par with not the real elites(of course some may as well depending on circumstances) but the "ones" who consider themselves Good local Uni grads.

I also do acknowledge that one may discord my above opinions but hey that's part of this process,do debate with me on this issue.

Thank you for sparing time to read my thoughts.Please do correct me if I'm wrong to say what I said in anyway and I am sincerely sorry to those I might have offended in any way what so ever.

Have a good day!
(The above content is entirely based on my thoughts and opinions)
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Oh, he is a prospective SIM UOL student... That explains it. SIM ppl all one type.
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Sorry, but what's the point of this diatribe?

Most people here have real life specific challenges looking and/or negotiating salary for jobs, I doubt they are interested in reading / replying to your various postulations over a smattering of vaguely defined topics.

I understand that my "diatribe" may be too lengthy and may be off goal from the related topic of discussion of this thread and I assume you're probably from a Local U(I might be wrong) but the reason why my diatribe was verbose was to appeal to more prospective SIM UOL students if ever they come across this,they should very well know it's a first class and then to a prestigious masters degree which would be the one of ways of landing them jobs in places which 'Good' local U grads work.Do correct me if I'm wrong and please don't scoff at my so called speech.You know it's the truth and you might as well face it.Do not shun away the topic because it might be unrelated to questions posted by graduates regarding the working world.

This whole thread has unrelated topics of discussion and more than discussing about employment possibilities and options "a certain group of ostentatious people" like to create a superior vs inferior aspect by sneering at SIM UOL graduates.
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First of all, you need to learn how to write more concisely and to the point.

There are so many fillers, unrelated stuff, disclaimers and apologies that it is hard to know what is your main point.
I'm not interested in writing to the point.I have purposely added jargon to this "speech" of mine,it's a deliberate approach.The main point is flagrant for everyone to see the realistic truth.
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Oh, he is a prospective SIM UOL student... That explains it. SIM ppl all one type.
Please don't pass idiotic remarks about SIM students in general.It's inane to do something like that.Nobody care's or needs your opinion if you're just planning to belittle me or other people.A reply to the subject would be most appreciated.

If I were to say I was studying in NTU or SMU,your opinion about that me will change all together but because I said I'm a prospective SIM student doesn't make me of a particular type.It's all about psychology.The mind perceives what it wants to perceive.
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Wow, this is a clear case of someone trying too hard to impress but ending up with verbal diarrhoea and revealing all his flaws in writing.

Of course, one may argue that it is quite a feat to have so many words, yet with so little substance. Then again, if there is one thing in abundance, it is grammar mistakes.
My English can be a little disturbing at times but hey "Has anyone told you nobody is perfect?" I do have a lot of work to do with improving my grammar and you seem to be enjoying discrediting it but you know I would appreciate if you could point them out for me so I can learn from them.

While you're at it,do something fruitful for once in this forum and let's discuss of whatever little substance there may be in it. It's so little but I'm appalled that I just get negative remarks about irrelevant aspects than replies on the subject matter.
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My English can be a little disturbing at times but hey "Has anyone told you nobody is perfect?" I do have a lot of work to do with improving my grammar and you seem to be enjoying discrediting it but you know I would appreciate if you could point them out for me so I can learn from them.

While you're at it,do something fruitful for once in this forum and let's discuss of whatever little substance there may be in it. It's so little but I'm appalled that I just get negative remarks about irrelevant aspects than replies on the subject matter.
Nobody is perfect, that's true.

But one thing you (and everyone else, including myself) should keep in mind is that your delivery affects the clarity of your post. If you are unable to succinctly and lucidly convey your points, your "wonderful" points will not get across to the readers. So I doubt you should blame us if we are appalled, and are unable to understand what it is that you're trying to drive across.
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