Comp Science Frsh Grad Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Shopee. Please share your code on github. Thanks.

Are you like autistic or you can't seem to follow instructions that well? I already ask you to list out specifications. Without specifications, what you want me to develop? Or you don't know how to craft out FR/NFR? Which is like a basic thing

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Are you like autistic or you can't seem to follow instructions that well? I already ask you to list out specifications. Without specifications, what you want me to develop? Or you don't know how to craft out FR/NFR? Which is like a basic thing

Lets just be on topic about fresh grad salary bah, ignore that person who keeps asking for the code. He probably isn't a good fit anyway, thats why terminated.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Are you like autistic or you can't seem to follow instructions that well? I already ask you to list out specifications. Without specifications, what you want me to develop? Or you don't know how to craft out FR/NFR? Which is like a basic thing

Typical tech ******** talk.
Need requirement specs la.
Requirement not clear la.
Requirement out of scope la.
Requirement creep la.
Need diagram la.

Af the end of the day nothing will be done.
My boss ask me hire fresh grad so high pay for what.

Here requirement
1. One basic android app basic no need nice UX design.
2. One user can launch and broadcast himself. Video.
3. Five other users can launch and see the users video
4. All five of them can see each other real time.

You have only 2 weeks = 10 man days.
Means you now have 9 days left.

Good luck. No github code. Your just as useless as any coder out there who claim its easy and doable bit when they have to write the code themselves.

Dunno how.
Don't have requirement.
Time not enough.

Bla bla bla. All the excuses that I have heard so many times before.
Some even say laptop not powerful enough.
Or no licensed software.
Or "what's the point. Just buy existing software"

All sort of excuses.

Again no code in github 9 days left. Good luck.

Hey can any one of you tech genius design a new sg salary forum.
This one is so 2000.

Any? Of the fresh grad high pay demanding comp science. Come on its easy. One website only.
Must blow our mind.

Come on. Its easy..

Can any of you tech genius design a system. Web. Android.
That can be used for general election.

Meaning people can vote by submitting online.
The system must ensure vote are classified. Secret. But can be accountable yet not identifiable.
Must be fault tolerant. Can't be hacked.canr be used for all sort of election.

Support all the languages. Can be reusable for every election for every country.
Must be scalable.
Must also show vote result in real time.

Very easy one what. The idea is so simple. Why nobody is able to do it le...
Git value... General election we all know the result real time. Covid ppl can still vote.


Then those without app or Internet. Can still go to the polling station and use the kiosk.
Overseas voters also can vote.
Then must handle time difference.

Come kn
Any tech genus? Do for freelance. Prototype. Then share on github.
Easy what. Just few buttons. Show a few candidates.
No need a FCH comp science to do.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can any of you tech genius design a system. Web. Android.
That can be used for general election.

Meaning people can vote by submitting online.
The system must ensure vote are classified. Secret. But can be accountable yet not identifiable.
Must be fault tolerant. Can't be hacked.canr be used for all sort of election.

Support all the languages. Can be reusable for every election for every country.
Must be scalable.
Must also show vote result in real time.

Very easy one what. The idea is so simple. Why nobody is able to do it le...
Git value... General election we all know the result real time. Covid ppl can still vote.


Then those without app or Internet. Can still go to the polling station and use the kiosk.
Overseas voters also can vote.
Then must handle time difference.

Come kn
Any tech genus? Do for freelance. Prototype. Then share on github.
Easy what. Just few buttons. Show a few candidates.
No need a FCH comp science to do.

Yeah this concept is very simple.
Why nobody built this systems? Then save all the human resources to count vote. Recount. Paper. Etc.

I think 1 FCH comp science should be able to developed such a simple system in 1 week.

Don't have to hire developers and pay them monthly high pay la.
Everything is so easy and fast can be done in 2 weeks.

Just hire then 2 weeks then pay them few hundreds when they submit their code.

Maybe all developers should follow this new hiring practices.
You only get paid for your work.

And not your "inexperience" and fake ****.
I mean doctor or dentist they have to give their time and attend to patient etc. It's actual labor.
Cknp science just sit there staring at the computer and Google solutions...

Some and most are fakes.
Politicians high pay have to give talks. Debate. News coverage. Also labor work.
Comp science student just sit there and stare at the monitor and cannot see any usisable feature.

Just see them run code. But the code does nothinf and every month 5k goes out of the company pocket into all this so called tech jobs..

A scam industry.

I'm a sme business owner and we have hired fresh grad before. We can't compete with brand multinational corporation so we usually give them higher pay to lure some.. If they can't develop, we will let them go...

In the past, we got a few caliber one. None of them are FCH. Just humble hardworking developer.
In return we give them space to work their craft. And eventually we have them higher increment eg 10% to 15% increment to retain them since it will cost us more to hire and train new people...

But recently fresh grad are asking for 5k which is ridiculous because we can easily find 2 to 3 years experienced developers for only 4k. But becuaae of recent employment pass policy change (due to covid) it is 4.5k.

So 4.5k for a foreigner with 5 years working experience. Portfolio of their work.
Or a 5k fresh grad with no experience but just nice cert from nus.

No brainer. But because of the high cost. We are slowly moving all our development work to India...
No choice. We can't sustain. Its too expensive.

So we are comprising quality and control but at fraction of the cost.
Tech industry is only for the fabulous.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Typical tech ******** talk.
Need requirement specs la.
Requirement not clear la.
Requirement out of scope la.
Requirement creep la.
Need diagram la.

Af the end of the day nothing will be done.
My boss ask me hire fresh grad so high pay for what.

Here requirement
1. One basic android app basic no need nice UX design.
2. One user can launch and broadcast himself. Video.
3. Five other users can launch and see the users video
4. All five of them can see each other real time.

You have only 2 weeks = 10 man days.
Means you now have 9 days left.

Good luck. No github code. Your just as useless as any coder out there who claim its easy and doable bit when they have to write the code themselves.

Dunno how.
Don't have requirement.
Time not enough.

Bla bla bla. All the excuses that I have heard so many times before.
Some even say laptop not powerful enough.
Or no licensed software.
Or "what's the point. Just buy existing software"

All sort of excuses.

Again no code in github 9 days left. Good luck.

Sure, its doable in 9 days. Sounds pretty simple for anyone who has app dev + network dev

This is why you must come from a good sch to produce a good NFR/FR
Whatever requirements you just post doesn't even conform to any standards.

Just few questions, where should the server be hosted on? You state that 5 users can see each other, dpes that mean the user who is broadcasting cant see the 5 users?

You dont tell me it should be common sense because when it comes to specs, we do according to client requirements, no gold plating (go google up what this is, you seem to come from a weak sch)

And what specific tag u wan me to show when the video is produced? So i can proof that it is done by me.

While I am doing this, i suggest you go learn how to craft a proper specification (FR/NFR) with multi level subreq which takes into account from all aspects from performance to security.

If you don't even know what I'm talking about, pls enrol urself into a proper sch lmao, dont disgrace yourself here.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm a sme business owner and we have hired fresh grad before. We can't compete with brand multinational corporation so we usually give them higher pay to lure some.. If they can't develop, we will let them go...

In the past, we got a few caliber one. None of them are FCH. Just humble hardworking developer.
In return we give them space to work their craft. And eventually we have them higher increment eg 10% to 15% increment to retain them since it will cost us more to hire and train new people...

But recently fresh grad are asking for 5k which is ridiculous because we can easily find 2 to 3 years experienced developers for only 4k. But becuaae of recent employment pass policy change (due to covid) it is 4.5k.

So 4.5k for a foreigner with 5 years working experience. Portfolio of their work.
Or a 5k fresh grad with no experience but just nice cert from nus.

No brainer. But because of the high cost. We are slowly moving all our development work to India...
No choice. We can't sustain. Its too expensive.

So we are comprising quality and control but at fraction of the cost.
Tech industry is only for the fabulous.

U will u regret outsourcing to india. The good indians are in SG already. You ask for roti they give you chapati