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Old 24-01-2023, 01:43 PM
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A lot of people seem to dislike LCH here. Is it really so bad that it impacts your day to day? I thought at a stat board people don't get to interact with the CE so much. Is there a way to just do your work and avoid working directly with him?
Tech policymaking without a tech CE or a solid core of tech staff...not sure what good can come out of it.

If he go to other non-tech stat boards maybe still can la cause non-tech generally less volatile than tech.

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Old 24-01-2023, 02:59 PM
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Tech policymaking without a tech CE or a solid core of tech staff...not sure what good can come out of it.

If he go to other non-tech stat boards maybe still can la cause non-tech generally less volatile than tech.
As long as it's a dictatorship, doesn't matter if there's solid staff.

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Old 24-01-2023, 03:09 PM
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Yes it can impact your day to day because as long as you're working on an item that needs to go up to him, he can make you redo and redo until he's satisfied no matter how long it takes.... months, years. And that's no easy feat when he can't communicate clearly what he wants, and sometimes doesn't even seem to know what he himself wants.
He is a perfectionist and cannot accept negative comments. Likes to show his angry face, make everyone (including his exco) all scared la. So expect long repeat discussions and pointless and forgettable whiteboarding.

He likes new blood. When you become 'older', he will downgrade you to the 'useless' or CMI level. Chief of Navy works this way here. Navy must have treated him like same way. Blame them for creating this monster.

Overall, if you want a gd increment, join and no need to stay long. Get in quick and get out quickly. His bias to new people is good for at least a year. The pay is decent. Just take it as a stepping stone to better pay. It is a disadvantage to stay long anyways. At the 8th mth mark, start looking for jobs. If you see it this way, it is an ok place to join.



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DITG is under ACE Kiren, entire place is toxic and full of showmanship
New kid on the block is DIPG
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Old 24-01-2023, 10:24 PM
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is IMDA really so bad? full of negative comments here.
I burned all my name cards on the night of my last day there. You can tell how angry yet happy people are.
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Old 25-01-2023, 02:43 PM
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After realising that this place is toxic, how did you guys manage to endure the remaining days there while searching for another job?
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Old 25-01-2023, 04:33 PM
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After realising that this place is toxic, how did you guys manage to endure the remaining days there while searching for another job?
This is like IMDA Hr fishing for response again and again to be used against negative comments sia
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Old 25-01-2023, 05:47 PM
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Anyone has war stories from being CE's SO? Do you get to sleep? Does he give reasonable deadlines? Require you to work over weekends?
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Old 25-01-2023, 09:36 PM
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After having gone through the excruciating process with this guy a few times, I think the ping pong is due to 4 things.
1. He doesn't understand
2. He doesn't know what he wants... proven when we delivered an outline to him that was 90% what he said during whiteboarding and in the order he said it, and he still amended majority of the outline changing structure and content
3. He is not able to communicate effectively what he wants, and people start guessing all over the place
4. By the time you're getting closer to what he wants, there are developments and the outline needs to be updated, leading you back to square 1 with him

Some people call it iterating. Iterating my ass. It's a bullshit excuse for not thinking through properly the first time, and wasting everyone's time going up and down and up and down on the same material.
To be fair, there is at least a 5th thing. Some Ds die die don't want to listen and keep insisting on their way, writing stuff that LCH doesn't want, or making things unnecessarily complex and with jargon when LCH doesn't like longwinded sentences and just wants people to get to the point. When LCH bui tahan already and summon you for whiteboarding then if you're down on your luck you become the scapegoat.

If you end up in the situation where your D and LCH can't see eye to eye, better to quit than be the ping pong ball tossed around between them.
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After having gone through the excruciating process with this guy a few times, I think the ping pong is due to 4 things.
1. He doesn't understand
2. He doesn't know what he wants... proven when we delivered an outline to him that was 90% what he said during whiteboarding and in the order he said it, and he still amended majority of the outline changing structure and content
3. He is not able to communicate effectively what he wants, and people start guessing all over the place
4. By the time you're getting closer to what he wants, there are developments and the outline needs to be updated, leading you back to square 1 with him

Some people call it iterating. Iterating my ass. It's a bullshit excuse for not thinking through properly the first time, and wasting everyone's time going up and down and up and down on the same material.
No. 4 is the one that makes everyone quiet quit and eventually quit for real. 1 ****ing grant takes more than half a year to be approved.
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