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Old 24-07-2020, 12:02 AM
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to put in context, managing a team of mx11a and engineers (mx12/13 + contractors)
Managerial level, of course need to work more to deserve the salary.

Can't be like MX12/13, just waiting for clock to strike 6.

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The Foreign Service is the most prestigious and coveted role in the civil service, particularly, in terms of remuneration. They have the highest starting base salaries (around 5k) and are entitled to bonuses particular to the scheme above and beyond the normal schemes (retention bonuses in the 3/4/7/8/9th years in service, other special bonuses and allowances).

That said, they also have the roughest working hours (8am - 12am almost 7 days a week - and for the more intense Desks, 2-3am is the norm). You will be worked to the bone. You will be shouted at and the working environment is not for the faint of heart.

Its also a boiler-pot chock full of elites. Most FSOs (even the non scholars) are either local university scholars or hail from top universities abroad (Oxbridge/HYPSM and the ilk). Do a simple search on LinkedIn if you donít believe me. Even second uppers are rare. A significant proportion are also law graduates or lawyers by training (given both the relevance of the role as well as the fact that it is the only role in the CS - other than the Legal Service - which pays well enough to make it a reasonable alternative to practicing law in the private sector).[Note: I have to caveat that I am talking about FSOs in the Political and Economic track.]

Put simply, it is the only job in the civil service where you can hope to draw mid five-figures a month in under 5 years - if you get in (one of the lucky 20-30 out of the 5000 or so applicants annually) and if you survive.
mid five-figures a month is 50k a month. and you can get it in under 5 years? smells like serious bs

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Iím the poster in #10207. Shrugs, whether you believe any bit of what I say is inconsequential. I donít have anything to prove. It is rather silly to compare jobs, and it is even more so to regard what is said online as the gospel. One thingís clear though, you can usually identify a personís station from the way he speaks and writes. iíll just leave it as that.
honey, nobody cares about your opinion. this is a forum. welcome to the internet.

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mid five-figures a month is 50k a month. and you can get it in under 5 years? smells like serious bs
mid 5 figure is actually closer to 55k/month which also happens to be minister's salary.... Our ministers must be very underpaid if they're drawing the equivalent of a 5 year fso
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Old 24-07-2020, 08:15 AM
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Can anyone share what the AGC or LSOís promotion progression from Grade 6B onwards (for fresh grads) is like?
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mid five-figures a month is 50k a month. and you can get it in under 5 years? smells like serious bs
I think he meant low 5 figures
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I think he meant low 5 figures
Yup I meant low five figures - was a slip in typing that whole chunk. Doesnt detract from the point.
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Old 24-07-2020, 09:37 AM
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Anyone joined MOM ah? Heard its very good life inside? But low pay? 3.3-3.5k?
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honey, nobody cares about your opinion. this is a forum. welcome to the internet.
Not the poster but thought your comment was silly. If you think that no one cares about your opinion why are you here? ((;
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One thingís clear though, you can usually identify a personís station from the way he speaks and writes. iíll just leave it as that.
Please la, get off your high horse. When I listen to how HSK and CCS speak and write, I also don't think they're anything special. Most of the people that join the CS can't get accepted to the competitive jobs in the private sector, and that's a fact.
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