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Old 02-04-2024, 09:30 AM
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Congrats! you got promoted? Admin's IPS is higher than lecturer?
I should convert to Admin too. LOL!
Admin and lecturer follow the same IPS. You can tell by the management level titles like managers, directors, deputy directors, etc

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Iím going for an interview for IT at nyp, do they follow ips?
Do share what IPS they offer.
Some might press your IPS by 1-2 levels lower



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Those DD and below, are required to step down from management when they start their re-employment, and also will be down IPS9. For Directors and above, a different set of rules. The most recent being an eastern poly allows a Senior Director to remain as senior director even after 63 years old.

One poly, two rules. One for commoner, one for senior management.

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Principal MX8
Deputy Principal IPS14
Snr Director IPS13
Director IPS12
Deputy Director IPS11
Assist Director IPS10 <--
Snr Manager IPS 9
Manager IPS 8 <--
Assist Manager IPS 7
Snr Exec/Lecturer IPS 6
Snr Exec/Lecturer IPS 5
Exec IPS 4

If you are given lower IPS and at that role means you are shortchanged.
Get lower salary but doing more work at that role.
Good luck to you as promotion is very biased. Some may promote every 2 years.
Some may never even promote.

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Those DD and below, are required to step down from management when they start their re-employment, and also will be down IPS9. For Directors and above, a different set of rules. The most recent being an eastern poly allows a Senior Director to remain as senior director even after 63 years old.

One poly, two rules. One for commoner, one for senior management.
I think you are talking about those reaching 63 for retirement. Well those old ones has enjoyed their era.
Now there are a lot of helicopters, joining as directors or senior managers. All are IPS 9 and in mid 30s. Recently I see Directors as young as early 40s. All they do is just laugh and talk. No need to do lectures, just talk. Talk is cheap and why are the institutes hiring these people? Scholars? White horses? Children of Ministers?

You see the young lecturers join with fixed term contract and leaves after doing the sh!t work. That's so unfair. The system is bad.
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Adding to knowledge base here

Recent PB grade: Commendable and 2.5mth bonus

After increment, IPS8 and 8k salary

40 year old admin scheme.
Are u still contract or permanent estab?


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Principal MX8
Deputy Principal IPS14
Snr Director IPS13
Director IPS12
Deputy Director IPS11
Assist Director IPS10 <--
Snr Manager IPS 9
Manager IPS 8 <--
Assist Manager IPS 7
Snr Exec/Lecturer IPS 6
Snr Exec/Lecturer IPS 5
Exec IPS 4

If you are given lower IPS and at that role means you are shortchanged.
Get lower salary but doing more work at that role.
Good luck to you as promotion is very biased. Some may promote every 2 years.
Some may never even promote.
I think recently many people joined as senior lecturer IPS8A (No prior teaching exp)
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Totally agree.

It is because they are willing to be yes man. Zero moral courage
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I think you are talking about those reaching 63 for retirement. Well those old ones has enjoyed their era.
Now there are a lot of helicopters, joining as directors or senior managers. All are IPS 9 and in mid 30s. Recently I see Directors as young as early 40s. All they do is just laugh and talk. No need to do lectures, just talk. Talk is cheap and why are the institutes hiring these people? Scholars? White horses? Children of Ministers?

You see the young lecturers join with fixed term contract and leaves after doing the sh!t work. That's so unfair. The system is bad.


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I think recently many people joined as senior lecturer IPS8A (No prior teaching exp)
Yes many senior lecturers and early 30s joined. As admin or whatever.
Makes me feel stupid when I joined as fresh grad grade with 10 year experience , a decade ago.
Not only am lower ips than them they don't know a single thing.
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Yes many senior lecturers and early 30s joined. As admin or whatever.
Makes me feel stupid when I joined as fresh grad grade with 10 year experience , a decade ago.
Not only am lower ips than them they don't know a single thing.
you would have seen it coming
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you would have seen it coming
Yup I did. a screw up system.
Example: between a permanent estab staff vs contract staff. Assuming both equally performed well.
But only able to choose one due to quota, definitely common sense to promote the perm estab staff right?

All these contract position are not retaining the staff and only director levels are eligible to apply for estab. should this be raised to the ministry? How do you like to be put as contract staff and be first to be retrenched if economy is bad?
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