How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Your reasoning is very flawed. Does that mean that if one earns more, they will have to spend more? Frugality is key if you want to retire early. I am now a junior surgical resident, but I am still eating and living the same like my university days. Eating at hawker centres, taking bus mrt every day. I even head to JB to buy all my vitamin supplements because it’s cheaper there.

Surgical resident got time to go JB?
Off day is sleeping day and catch up with sleep

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So would you say the comparative value of Mrcp and MRCs is less than mmed (FM) if one doesn't complete the specialist program?
Meaning if IM resident complete junior residency and mrcp but chose not to pursue senior residency, their qualifications (Mrcp) have less value than a mmed (FM) for e.g

Aren't they all considered intermediate qualifications of the same level?

M.med FM is an exit qualification lei

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Medicine is getting saturated. More doctors now. More specialists. More competition for a pie that isn't all that much bigger.

The way money is earned in medicine is also very slow.

Not one of those higher risk higher reward type of job. In some sectors also got boom. You work for the company and they give phantom shares or stock options it does well, kena buy out for premium or something you cash out. Most of the people I know who got such opportunities say they just did their jobs like any other, then suddenly woah their phantom shares worth millions?? WOw.

Medicine no such thing. Slow and steady. Like the tortoise. But tortoise life like very boring.

Med is still good after you get past the HO-MOPEX stage. Which other jobs can give you the flexibility of a locum GP? Which other jobs can let you have a carefree life as a health screening doc making at least $15000 a month?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi all. i heard rumours about a salary revision for all drs in public service coming some time in October this year. anyone can confirm this? i heard its not limited to MOHH drs but those employed under the various clusters too.

Don’t think MOHH drs are getting anymore increment, they already adjusted their base early this year.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Med is still good after you get past the HO-MOPEX stage. Which other jobs can give you the flexibility of a locum GP? Which other jobs can let you have a carefree life as a health screening doc making at least $15000 a month?

That's only 180k/year? Which is ok for a starting pay, but if that's your ceiling, is that sufficient in today society?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That's only 180k/year? Which is ok for a starting pay, but if that's your ceiling, is that sufficient in today society?

Sigh.
Very funny lei.
Why u don't go bash other pple low salary in other threads
Teacher thread where geo5a is 8250 max per month for example


U cannot get into med school is it?
Nothing to do but whole day come here and spout Ur imaginery tech or banking or law pay of 500k
It's ok if you don't get into medicine.
You can contribute to society in other ways
Eg keep the road clean.
No need come here and bash our salary.
It's ok, we understand. Really. And you should move on.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Lol.
Did you even take FCFP?
The curriculum is quite irrelevant to the actual practice of FM in the community.
It’s quite specific to probably those practicing in CH or the most MDT in OPS.
There’s nothing “true” about “true FM”.
Some fellows are not even worthy of the title.

Anyways, all these doesn’t change the fact that FP / GP will forever be the lowest paid.
That is just how life is. Generalists will always earn less than specialists.
No point complaining about the pay. If you want do something different then strike it out and try something different.

Can I ask in polyclinic, does completing fellowship itself lead to a payrise, if there is no actual promotion?

Meaning if one is already an AC with mmed, if he completed fellowship, does he get an immediate payrise (or only if he gets promoted to consultant)

Or similar a FP with mmed completes fellowship, does he get an immediate payrise or only if he gets promoted to AC?

Just curious, as completing mmed alone comes with a huge payrise for gdfm FPS/MBBS rps. I wonder does completing fcfp lead to another huge pay rise?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can I ask in polyclinic, does completing fellowship itself lead to a payrise, if there is no actual promotion?

Meaning if one is already an AC with mmed, if he completed fellowship, does he get an immediate payrise (or only if he gets promoted to consultant)

Or similar a FP with mmed completes fellowship, does he get an immediate payrise or only if he gets promoted to AC?

Just curious, as completing mmed alone comes with a huge payrise for gdfm FPS/MBBS rps. I wonder does completing fcfp lead to another huge pay rise?

No, getting fcfp doesn't give u a big pay rise.

The biggest pay rise for any speciality is when u exit.
For FM, the official exit is and shall remain the m.me FM in line with the rest of the world after a 3 year training program.

Fcfp is currently useful for u to hit consultant in c. Hospital or polyclinic.
U get fcfp doesn't mean u get consultant but u need it as a prerequisite to get consultant.
If u suck, dun play ball , dun take up admin task, pple can't promote u.
AC to C and C to SC don't have big pay rise fyi.
It's along the lines of single digit increment percentages.
For fm, Ur clinical allowance increase by 1k for AC to C and c to SC

For this reason alot of ac don't want to do the fcfp to get c
Becuase its just a 1k increment. They hang around as ac doing a bit of teaching , admin and mainly clinical dduties.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

M.med FM is an exit qualification lei

Nope gdfm is an exit qualification
Exit qualification means the minimum to register for fp

In my mind, we shld be strict and only accept fcfps
But well many doctors disagree

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can I ask in polyclinic, does completing fellowship itself lead to a payrise, if there is no actual promotion?

Meaning if one is already an AC with mmed, if he completed fellowship, does he get an immediate payrise (or only if he gets promoted to consultant)

Or similar a FP with mmed completes fellowship, does he get an immediate payrise or only if he gets promoted to AC?

Just curious, as completing mmed alone comes with a huge payrise for gdfm FPS/MBBS rps. I wonder does completing fcfp lead to another huge pay rise?

better to use your MMED and join a big chain as an anchor doc if you want to be rich faster. Staying in polyclinic for life and even doing FCFP will not make you rich.

Go out there and get experience in the real world on how to manage a clinic as an anchor doc. Save hard and aim to open your own family clinic eventually. Grow the business and if you are lucky, you can get a buyout offer from Raffles/Parkway in your golden years