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Old 16-10-2020, 01:46 AM
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No the average doctor is average
They dont really come early enough and leave home late
To be a doctor you should sacrifice your personal time and life to get a good appraisals
Your effort will show
Basically.....

"Good performing" Doctor dedicates his ENTIRE LIFE AND ALL HIS 24h a day 7 days a week to work and research writing papers for his work/boss.

I remember I had one guy work very hard want to get "A" grade.

He did not. And he was pissed cos he really spent all his time working and slogging away for the department.

Explanation was that year was 2007 bad economy nobody could get A.

He was down hearted. I said why so important need to get A?

He said bonus!

I said so between your B and the A what is the difference in amount of bonus?

He said around 4-5k.

I asked him 4-5k can go buy what? A condo? A house? A car?

He said go holiday.

Joker lah. I told him I make more money than 4-5k just investing my savings in bank stock with dividends.

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Basically.....

"Good performing" Doctor dedicates his ENTIRE LIFE AND ALL HIS 24h a day 7 days a week to work and research writing papers for his work/boss.

I remember I had one guy work very hard want to get "A" grade.

He did not. And he was pissed cos he really spent all his time working and slogging away for the department.

Explanation was that year was 2007 bad economy nobody could get A.

He was down hearted. I said why so important need to get A?

He said bonus!

I said so between your B and the A what is the difference in amount of bonus?

He said around 4-5k.

I asked him 4-5k can go buy what? A condo? A house? A car?

He said go holiday.

Joker lah. I told him I make more money than 4-5k just investing my savings in bank stock with dividends.
Anyhow pomp.
I gave people A grades during those years.
Rheum ac make 240k?
Haha. Sure.

Cons don't have overtime pay hor. Whoever post that ,pls la. Dun fake.

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Old 16-10-2020, 10:13 AM
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Anyhow pomp.
I gave people A grades during those years.
Rheum ac make 240k?
Haha. Sure.

Cons don't have overtime pay hor. Whoever post that ,pls la. Dun fake.
What's a better estimate for Rheum AC?

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Anyhow pomp.
I gave people A grades during those years.
Rheum ac make 240k?
Haha. Sure.

Cons don't have overtime pay hor. Whoever post that ,pls la. Dun fake.
I am sure when consultant are on call, they get paid?, Esp when they are called overnight.
Some of the gs cons are doing step down reg calls, I am sure they are paid as well?
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Old 16-10-2020, 04:06 PM
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Hi, singaporean studying in a UK med school graduating next year. Can I ask about the residency scene in Singapore? I had always planned to come back to sg after graduating but heard recently from some friends in other UK med schools that residency is getting very competitive so they have decided to stay in UK to specialise. So competitive to the extent that they turned down the pre-employment grant so they can stay in UK to specialise. Can you shed some light on the situation in Singapore. One of my MO friends said they are pushing for resident physicians? How does that differ from the conventional residency track? Thanks!
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Hi, singaporean studying in a UK med school graduating next year. Can I ask about the residency scene in Singapore? I had always planned to come back to sg after graduating but heard recently from some friends in other UK med schools that residency is getting very competitive so they have decided to stay in UK to specialise. So competitive to the extent that they turned down the pre-employment grant so they can stay in UK to specialise. Can you shed some light on the situation in Singapore. One of my MO friends said they are pushing for resident physicians? How does that differ from the conventional residency track? Thanks!
Healthcare cost is very expensive.
Therapeutics
Diagnostics
Labour


A lot of singaporeans dont want gst increase
A lot of singaporeans want to see doctor cheap

So how can we achieve our aim

We will work on therapeutics
-come up with Standard drug list
-negotiate with pharma, u sell us cheap,we buy in bulk, make it a standard 2 drug

We will work on diagnostics
-introduce real cost of diagnostics, make patient pay for it, doctor feels the pinch wont anyhow order

We will work on labour cost
-We need good labour but not too expensive
-we need senior people do calls (RP or senior RP)
-we need consultants but not too many
-so we make rp pay competitive, increaee rp pay
-we reduce consultant pay
-to make it less incentive to become consultant
-we also have a lot of quality labour from foreign countries and returning sinkie to augment our labour force
-in addition we have 3 local medical schools

Why are we doing all these?

Ppl no want taxes. Ppl want good and cheap healthcare


Now sinkie die very old
-a lot of nursing homes
-we encourage sinkie to exercise but we know a lot dont
-alot will stroke out and become prawn
-so we make them buy careshield
-a lot will frequent flyer hospital
-we have no choice but to increase premium

Tldr: sustainability sustainability sustainability
If we go the 1990s and 2000s ways, our healthcare will collapse
We cannot provide so much specialist positions, too expensive
We need good gp and rp. We are according them more recognition and previleges to keep our system working
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Healthcare cost is very expensive.
Therapeutics
Diagnostics
Labour


A lot of singaporeans dont want gst increase
A lot of singaporeans want to see doctor cheap

So how can we achieve our aim

We will work on therapeutics
-come up with Standard drug list
-negotiate with pharma, u sell us cheap,we buy in bulk, make it a standard 2 drug

We will work on diagnostics
-introduce real cost of diagnostics, make patient pay for it, doctor feels the pinch wont anyhow order

We will work on labour cost
-We need good labour but not too expensive
-we need senior people do calls (RP or senior RP)
-we need consultants but not too many
-so we make rp pay competitive, increaee rp pay
-we reduce consultant pay
-to make it less incentive to become consultant
-we also have a lot of quality labour from foreign countries and returning sinkie to augment our labour force
-in addition we have 3 local medical schools

Why are we doing all these?

Ppl no want taxes. Ppl want good and cheap healthcare


Now sinkie die very old
-a lot of nursing homes
-we encourage sinkie to exercise but we know a lot dont
-alot will stroke out and become prawn
-so we make them buy careshield
-a lot will frequent flyer hospital
-we have no choice but to increase premium

Tldr: sustainability sustainability sustainability
If we go the 1990s and 2000s ways, our healthcare will collapse
We cannot provide so much specialist positions, too expensive
We need good gp and rp. We are according them more recognition and previleges to keep our system working
O summarize

Sinkies ai Chee ai pee.
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Old 17-10-2020, 06:38 AM
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Healthcare cost is very expensive.
Therapeutics
Diagnostics
Labour


A lot of singaporeans dont want gst increase
A lot of singaporeans want to see doctor cheap

So how can we achieve our aim

We will work on therapeutics
-come up with Standard drug list
-negotiate with pharma, u sell us cheap,we buy in bulk, make it a standard 2 drug

We will work on diagnostics
-introduce real cost of diagnostics, make patient pay for it, doctor feels the pinch wont anyhow order

We will work on labour cost
-We need good labour but not too expensive
-we need senior people do calls (RP or senior RP)
-we need consultants but not too many
-so we make rp pay competitive, increaee rp pay
-we reduce consultant pay
-to make it less incentive to become consultant
-we also have a lot of quality labour from foreign countries and returning sinkie to augment our labour force
-in addition we have 3 local medical schools

Why are we doing all these?

Ppl no want taxes. Ppl want good and cheap healthcare


Now sinkie die very old
-a lot of nursing homes
-we encourage sinkie to exercise but we know a lot dont
-alot will stroke out and become prawn
-so we make them buy careshield
-a lot will frequent flyer hospital
-we have no choice but to increase premium

Tldr: sustainability sustainability sustainability
If we go the 1990s and 2000s ways, our healthcare will collapse
We cannot provide so much specialist positions, too expensive
We need good gp and rp. We are according them more recognition and previleges to keep our system working

What is the pay for rp and consultant? Have they increased and decreased respectively over the years according to your post?
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Old 17-10-2020, 07:12 AM
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I am sure when consultant are on call, they get paid?, Esp when they are called overnight.
Some of the gs cons are doing step down reg calls, I am sure they are paid as well?
Nope.
Your step down surg reg AC gets paid the same as the registrar who is on call lor.
200 plus a weekday night. Maybe if he do 100 calls a year get 20k more. How to push to 240k?
Ur medical con might get a small fee if he Kenna call if there's such an arrangement. But seriously..they don't get call much, that's what the reg is for.
Others will be those interventional guys like cath guys. Again depends on arrangement, but with so many cards guys like flies, they are happy to get a job liao.
Maybe obstetrician ba, when they come back to pop a baby they get a good amount. But...damn shag. Forever on call.
No 240k for ac la. Esp under the new schemes.
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Old 17-10-2020, 08:00 AM
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Are you sure there is less politics/administrative work in polyclinic and community hospital as compared to acute hospital?
Probably just a overpaid specialist con getting paid 2-4x his fam med peers posting during his 'admin' time while his reg and mos do all the leg work.
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