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Old 12-08-2020, 06:44 PM
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I have been so mentally and physically broken from this career lol
I suspect practice has made me depressed.
But I can't bear to leave because I have bills to pay, car loan and condo mortgage payments amongst other things.

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It really depends on your firm dynamics. Team based or pool system? What's the rapport with the partners? Are you allowed to solicit work from outside your team or de facto team? Is being proactive encouraged or dismissed as wayang?

If you trained with the firm, ur position is probably more secure as you prob already have a cachet of trust with the bosses for them to want to retain u in the first place. If you're a lateral hire you're a bit on shaky ground in this climate. You have to be shameless in soliciting for work esp with WFH. Out of sight means out of mind, and the partners will trim the low profile assoc first if they need to cut people
Hmm thanks for the advice. I think my firm is still fine. We are still hiring even at this time haha

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If you can’t even get something so basic as opposing counsel’s name right, you don’t exactly engender much confidence in negotiating the minutiae of a contract. That’s the difference between a Chinatown lawyer and one in a Big 4/international firm - we make sure things are right whether it’s billable or not.
Hell yeah, we Chinatown lawyers do make sure things are right whether it's billable or not.

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If you can’t even get something so basic as opposing counsel’s name right, you don’t exactly engender much confidence in negotiating the minutiae of a contract. That’s the difference between a Chinatown lawyer and one in a Big 4/international firm - we make sure things are right whether it’s billable or not.
There are big 4 lawyers who get things right at work but can also relax on an internet forum. Your sad sad tightass just isn’t aware of that.
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These petty squabbles are pathetic. Get back on topic kids.
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Hi anyone has comments about the Dispute Resolution and/or the Finance and Projects team at Baker?
1. Are they hiring for Training Contracts?
2. What are they known for?
3. Any cautionary tales?
4. Am I better off elsewhere?

Thanks!
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Hi anyone has comments about the Dispute Resolution and/or the Finance and Projects team at Baker?
1. Are they hiring for Training Contracts?
2. What are they known for?
3. Any cautionary tales?
4. Am I better off elsewhere?

Thanks!
Baker disputes is a mediocre team carried by an international firm's name. It's an odd phenomenon as a tour on linkedin will show that most of their trainees did very well in their LLB (FCH or 2nd upper with prizes), but the training is notoriously bad. Likely the trainees knew this going in, but just wanted to be paid on the Baker salary scale.

Finance and projects is another thing. Reputed team, high profile work, very demanding but I have heard good things about bosses (i.e. tough but fair).
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I suspect practice has made me depressed.
But I can't bear to leave because I have bills to pay, car loan and condo mortgage payments amongst other things.
Join politics, easy $16,000/month job and millions more if minister grade. Criteria for minister level is not that high, just need to plp.
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Baker disputes is a mediocre team carried by an international firm's name. It's an odd phenomenon as a tour on linkedin will show that most of their trainees did very well in their LLB (FCH or 2nd upper with prizes), but the training is notoriously bad. Likely the trainees knew this going in, but just wanted to be paid on the Baker salary scale.

Finance and projects is another thing. Reputed team, high profile work, very demanding but I have heard good things about bosses (i.e. tough but fair).
The training in disputes is non existent. The trainees join n stay on to have a good life. The good ones bave left. There was a huge exodus all taking place at around the same time.
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Join politics, easy $16,000/month job and millions more if minister grade. Criteria for minister level is not that high, just need to plp.
Thats why work so hard for what
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