Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Agreed. Also you gotta think on their side - why are they ever going to let you go to the international side for international pay when you do their menial tasks for them for cheap? They are not going to do that esp when they can make out a quick and easy case on a difference in the quality of hires. They'll keep you on the Singapore scale.

Any intra-firm hopping to intl side is frowned upon and sets a dangerous precedent (not that it has not been done). It is dangerous because hey now even A can get intl pay why cant B get it.

Surprisingly I know of a few local hires from Ashurst ADTlaw whose salary is almost comparable to the international side

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Surprisingly I know of a few local hires from Ashurst ADTlaw whose salary is almost comparable to the international side

There are quite a few FLAs with comparable pay between local and international sides.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes. The work they do may not even matter if they are paid SG rates. End of day, money talks lah. If you are really a quality hire they will pay you intl rates. It's fluff. The international side needs manpower that is paid in cheap SG scale.

Work wise - nope. Pay is very very sensitive, those in FLAs on SG side may choose not to tell you that they are second class in terms of last drawn. This is also why this forum exists (fourth wall, broken)

The selectivity of local side is no higher than any non-FLA. Some differences, but across the board within a reasonable band of difference.

Are FLAs more selective than non-FLAs for TCs?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Surprisingly I know of a few local hires from Ashurst ADTlaw whose salary is almost comparable to the international side

Must have been international rate hire (if comparable). This is because they must have made a strong local case of quality.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Are FLAs more selective than non-FLAs for TCs?

Can I answer by analogy? Politely, as I do not wish to offend anyone am more of a neutral observer. Does EHE hire more selectively now or from 1 July? If the merger is scuppered, HEP will likely hire in the same way it always has pre, post, and during merger. It makes no difference whatsoever.

Not likely that the hiring practice has changed so much in 1-2 months.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes. The work they do may not even matter if they are paid SG rates. End of day, money talks lah. If you are really a quality hire they will pay you intl rates. It's fluff. The international side needs manpower that is paid in cheap SG scale.

Work wise - nope. Pay is very very sensitive, those in FLAs on SG side may choose not to tell you that they are second class in terms of last drawn. This is also why this forum exists (fourth wall, broken)

The selectivity of local side is no higher than any non-FLA. Some differences, but across the board within a reasonable band of difference.

Haha that reminds me of the time when A&G and A&O considered merging but failed in the end. Besides sharing the same name, A&G probably does not want to share their own reputation and capabilities.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Haha that reminds me of the time when A&G and A&O considered merging but failed in the end. Besides sharing the same name, A&G probably does not want to share their own reputation and capabilities.

Lololololol

Originally Posted by Unregistered

There are quite a few FLAs with comparable pay between local and international sides.

Yes but the bottom line is if your pay is comparable to the SG bracket (below Baker, as my benchmark), you are on domestic pay. If your pay is comparable to CC, you're on international. Take that as a rule of thumb.

If there's a difference of 15% or more for the same PQE, you're on the domestic track. If your pay ish 15% more you're on the intl track.

15% means you look around you and start asking questions. Y dis guy or gal same PQE different pay neh does it mean I weak sir. The firm will also have a strict confidentiality policy (usually) to prevent people from discussing pay as it is a touchy topic.

Any opinions on R&T vs WongP for corp? And team culture?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Any opinions on R&T vs WongP for corp? And team culture?

WP > R&T for corp generally except for specific niche practices. No need to take my word for it too, just check the chambers or legal 500 rankings. Team culture wise, can only speak for WP as I used to work there -> standards are very high for work quality. If you can match those standards, people are nice and I enjoyed working there.