Civil Svc/ Statboard - Typical Timeline for making a Hiring Decision

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyone ever transferred from one ministry to another?

I started off with a diploma in one ministry 12 years ago. Along the way, my ministry sponsored my degree studies. Now I applied for another ministry and the HR is telling me that my degree will not considered as it is termed as an Inter Ministry Transfer and I may face a pay cut even as the ministry I am applying for is of a lower tier.

Is this the norm? And if I apply for a Stat Board, is it the same story?

Thanks

Under movement policy, pay, rank and benefits are usually the same. if you want your degree to be considered and paid as a degree grad, then you have to find a job that requires a degree and go in as a fresh hire as well (no movement policy). However, do take note that the HR might even pay you a fresh grad pay despite you having 12 years experience because they only consider your experience after getting the degree.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I can confirm that if you're currently from one ministry where you're on permanent scheme, if you transfer to another ministry you will be offered permanent.

Is this really true? I did see some posts around here that some people were still only offered 1-3 year contracts for movement policy despite being perm

last year i shared my application to offer journey on this forum and also shared that the salary offer was below my expected. basically they offered me a few bucks less monthly gross salary than what i was already earning in my previous job at private sector, but argued that the bonus is better i.e., better overall annual compensation. i think i was rly shocked to have been offered even less than what i was already drawing bc when i change jobs in private sector the monthly gross pay will always increase. but anyway i decided to accept the offer and just try it out. so after one year, i wanted to share my thoughts here and hopefully it might help someone on the journey thinking whether to accept an offer!

so it turns out that my annual compensation was rly much higher than if i had stayed on in my previous role. my previous role’s bonus was averaging about 1-1.5months, so using this calculation, i did get more than 20% increment in terms of annual compensation after joining the ministry. but i also think that i am very lucky to have joined a ministry that has generally nice people around. my bosses, esp the directors, are fantastic. i do feel appreciated for my work here and i think they are looking out for me where possible. i got offered emplacement this year and even tho it was a first year where performance grading shld have been default C for new joiner, i got more than that, thus my PB quantum was also a bit higher, contributing to the overall annual compensation amount. i know this experience is very subjective, and not everyone in public service get to experience good bosses! i think i am the luckier ones to have a generally positive experience in public service and i think this is actly the best organisation i’ve been in so far (i had experience in 3 other private organisations prior to joining govt). i got a feeling i might end up staying long term in this ministry if all things continue well and i feel appreciated for my efforts. while i understand there are limitations such as promotion chances got to depend on a lot of other factors apart from capability, i just rly want to count my blessings at this point bc i have a great work life balance and could still spend enough time w my young kids.

best of luck to everyone out there! i rly hope you land something good! sometimes it’s all about perspective and you’ll never know what’s in store for you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

last year i shared my application to offer journey on this forum and also shared that the salary offer was below my expected. basically they offered me a few bucks less monthly gross salary than what i was already earning in my previous job at private sector, but argued that the bonus is better i.e., better overall annual compensation. i think i was rly shocked to have been offered even less than what i was already drawing bc when i change jobs in private sector the monthly gross pay will always increase. but anyway i decided to accept the offer and just try it out. so after one year, i wanted to share my thoughts here and hopefully it might help someone on the journey thinking whether to accept an offer!

so it turns out that my annual compensation was rly much higher than if i had stayed on in my previous role. my previous role’s bonus was averaging about 1-1.5months, so using this calculation, i did get more than 20% increment in terms of annual compensation after joining the ministry. but i also think that i am very lucky to have joined a ministry that has generally nice people around. my bosses, esp the directors, are fantastic. i do feel appreciated for my work here and i think they are looking out for me where possible. i got offered emplacement this year and even tho it was a first year where performance grading shld have been default C for new joiner, i got more than that, thus my PB quantum was also a bit higher, contributing to the overall annual compensation amount. i know this experience is very subjective, and not everyone in public service get to experience good bosses! i think i am the luckier ones to have a generally positive experience in public service and i think this is actly the best organisation i’ve been in so far (i had experience in 3 other private organisations prior to joining govt). i got a feeling i might end up staying long term in this ministry if all things continue well and i feel appreciated for my efforts. while i understand there are limitations such as promotion chances got to depend on a lot of other factors apart from capability, i just rly want to count my blessings at this point bc i have a great work life balance and could still spend enough time w my young kids.

best of luck to everyone out there! i rly hope you land something good! sometimes it’s all about perspective and you’ll never know what’s in store for you.

Congrats bro or sis. Well done.

Its important to have good bosses who will fight for u and recognise your effort

Otherwise even good pay but will break your mind and soul easily

Originally Posted by Unregistered

last year i shared my application to offer journey on this forum and also shared that the salary offer was below my expected. basically they offered me a few bucks less monthly gross salary than what i was already earning in my previous job at private sector, but argued that the bonus is better i.e., better overall annual compensation. i think i was rly shocked to have been offered even less than what i was already drawing bc when i change jobs in private sector the monthly gross pay will always increase. but anyway i decided to accept the offer and just try it out. so after one year, i wanted to share my thoughts here and hopefully it might help someone on the journey thinking whether to accept an offer!

so it turns out that my annual compensation was rly much higher than if i had stayed on in my previous role. my previous role’s bonus was averaging about 1-1.5months, so using this calculation, i did get more than 20% increment in terms of annual compensation after joining the ministry. but i also think that i am very lucky to have joined a ministry that has generally nice people around. my bosses, esp the directors, are fantastic. i do feel appreciated for my work here and i think they are looking out for me where possible. i got offered emplacement this year and even tho it was a first year where performance grading shld have been default C for new joiner, i got more than that, thus my PB quantum was also a bit higher, contributing to the overall annual compensation amount. i know this experience is very subjective, and not everyone in public service get to experience good bosses! i think i am the luckier ones to have a generally positive experience in public service and i think this is actly the best organisation i’ve been in so far (i had experience in 3 other private organisations prior to joining govt). i got a feeling i might end up staying long term in this ministry if all things continue well and i feel appreciated for my efforts. while i understand there are limitations such as promotion chances got to depend on a lot of other factors apart from capability, i just rly want to count my blessings at this point bc i have a great work life balance and could still spend enough time w my young kids.

best of luck to everyone out there! i rly hope you land something good! sometimes it’s all about perspective and you’ll never know what’s in store for you.

happy for you!

not sure which was the post where you did your sharing, but at which MX level were you emplaced? how many YOE did you have before being emplaced?

thank you and congrats once again!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Congrats bro or sis. Well done.

Its important to have good bosses who will fight for u and recognise your effort

Otherwise even good pay but will break your mind and soul easily

thank you!! yes i agree, initially i was quite upset about the monthly pay decrease but now i realised it’s just a number. while we need to make enough to sustain the cost of living, but lots of other factors are to be considered too and definitely good bosses are hard to come by so im rly thankful for that

Originally Posted by Unregistered

happy for you!

not sure which was the post where you did your sharing, but at which MX level were you emplaced? how many YOE did you have before being emplaced?

thank you and congrats once again!

thank you ☺️ i joined the ministry at MX12. had 5 years of working experience in private sector which 3.5 years being direct relevant experience. my one year contract with the ministry is just about to be up and was told that i’ll be emplaced!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

last year i shared my application to offer journey on this forum and also shared that the salary offer was below my expected. basically they offered me a few bucks less monthly gross salary than what i was already earning in my previous job at private sector, but argued that the bonus is better i.e., better overall annual compensation. i think i was rly shocked to have been offered even less than what i was already drawing bc when i change jobs in private sector the monthly gross pay will always increase. but anyway i decided to accept the offer and just try it out. so after one year, i wanted to share my thoughts here and hopefully it might help someone on the journey thinking whether to accept an offer!

so it turns out that my annual compensation was rly much higher than if i had stayed on in my previous role. my previous role’s bonus was averaging about 1-1.5months, so using this calculation, i did get more than 20% increment in terms of annual compensation after joining the ministry. but i also think that i am very lucky to have joined a ministry that has generally nice people around. my bosses, esp the directors, are fantastic. i do feel appreciated for my work here and i think they are looking out for me where possible. i got offered emplacement this year and even tho it was a first year where performance grading shld have been default C for new joiner, i got more than that, thus my PB quantum was also a bit higher, contributing to the overall annual compensation amount. i know this experience is very subjective, and not everyone in public service get to experience good bosses! i think i am the luckier ones to have a generally positive experience in public service and i think this is actly the best organisation i’ve been in so far (i had experience in 3 other private organisations prior to joining govt). i got a feeling i might end up staying long term in this ministry if all things continue well and i feel appreciated for my efforts. while i understand there are limitations such as promotion chances got to depend on a lot of other factors apart from capability, i just rly want to count my blessings at this point bc i have a great work life balance and could still spend enough time w my young kids.

best of luck to everyone out there! i rly hope you land something good! sometimes it’s all about perspective and you’ll never know what’s in store for you.

Thanks for sharing! Appreciate the response

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