Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Many people have said it here but I'll say it again: performance grades alone don't determine promotion.

CEP determines how often you could get promoted, but whether the promotion actually occurs at that particular interval depends on your performance. If the intervals are wide due to low CEP, you can get all the Bs that the ranking panel can throw at you but you won't be identified for promotion very much sooner.

Curious, is it possible to find out or predict CEP? Which are the better ways to do so?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Usually P will go around congratulating promotees in Week1. If ur p didn’t approach u, then…

I notice P has been walking around but never stop at my place, so sad. I'm a 4th year GEO3 that has been covering the LH since term 3 last year. A thankless job, work like a dog and tired like ****!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Curious, is it possible to find out or predict CEP? Which are the better ways to do so?

Ya lol how does one know if he/she has high CEP and is being groomed by the school, or if one has been condemned with a low CEP and should thus pursue open posting?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ya lol how does one know if he/she has high CEP and is being groomed by the school, or if one has been condemned with a low CEP and should thus pursue open posting?

Hi colleagues, let me be upfront. If you know your CEP and it is not as high as you think, for example, you are at ST level. It means you will be an ST after about 28 to 30 years in service. Will you work like a dog for the school in the starting few years at least? Giving up family time, boyfriend time, neglect your child etc.

Usually, people realize that as they become stagnant despite putting in effort. Hence you see people who worry about promotion are usually the younger ones. The older ones know the game - you can work like a dog for the next few years, get Bs for PB, you will be limited by your CEP. Your GEO3 will come in at about 3 years into service, GEO4 in about 12 years, GEO5 in 20 years and finally SEO1 in 28 years. Seems like a good spread?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi colleagues, let me be upfront. If you know your CEP and it is not as high as you think, for example, you are at ST level. It means you will be an ST after about 28 to 30 years in service. Will you work like a dog for the school in the starting few years at least? Giving up family time, boyfriend time, neglect your child etc.

Usually, people realize that as they become stagnant despite putting in effort. Hence you see people who worry about promotion are usually the younger ones. The older ones know the game - you can work like a dog for the next few years, get Bs for PB, you will be limited by your CEP. Your GEO3 will come in at about 3 years into service, GEO4 in about 12 years, GEO5 in 20 years and finally SEO1 in 28 years. Seems like a good spread?

I agree with this. At least this is where the system can milk newer teachers for a few years with the promise of promotions and positions. If you look at the hours spent after you get a position, you might just as well go McDonald’s and shake fries. It might be therapeutic and you can’t bring your work home. Surprise, surprise, the returns per hour might just be about the same

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Gone case liao 🫠

Dun think it's out yet, why bother making yourself paranoid, when the time comes, it comes naturally.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I notice P has been walking around but never stop at my place, so sad. I'm a 4th year GEO3 that has been covering the LH since term 3 last year. A thankless job, work like a dog and tired like ****!

In geo3 for 4th year is still early for a farmer.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I notice P has been walking around but never stop at my place, so sad. I'm a 4th year GEO3 that has been covering the LH since term 3 last year. A thankless job, work like a dog and tired like ****!

Just so you know, GEO4 cannot be put up for position eh. Even if you are promoted this year, you will still not be able to go for interview this year.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just so you know, GEO4 cannot be put up for position eh. Even if you are promoted this year, you will still not be able to go for interview this year.

You mean GEO3?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ya lol how does one know if he/she has high CEP and is being groomed by the school, or if one has been condemned with a low CEP and should thus pursue open posting?

Have a (informal) talk with your RO or P.

They might not outright tell you the CEP.
But they can give you hints.

Need to know how to ask the questions

But sometimes really need to be in right place, right time, meet right person.

Got farmer ex-colleague who took 7-8 years to go from geo3 to geo4, and 2 years under different boss in new school to go to geo5 because boss is supportive, got opening available. But he worked really hard for his promotion.

Networking and people skills are really important.