Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ya lol how does one know if he/she has high CEP and is being groomed by the school, or if one has been condemned with a low CEP and should thus pursue open posting?

Have a (informal) talk with your RO or P.

They might not outright tell you the CEP.
But they can give you hints.

Need to know how to ask the questions

But sometimes really need to be in right place, right time, meet right person.

Got farmer ex-colleague who took 7-8 years to go from geo3 to geo4, and 2 years under different boss in new school to go to geo5 because boss is supportive, got opening available. But he worked really hard for his promotion.

Networking and people skills are really important.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Have a (informal) talk with your RO or P.

They might not outright tell you the CEP.
But they can give you hints.

Need to know how to ask the questions

But sometimes really need to be in right place, right time, meet right person.

Got farmer ex-colleague who took 7-8 years to go from geo3 to geo4, and 2 years under different boss in new school to go to geo5 because boss is supportive, got opening available. But he worked really hard for his promotion.

Networking and people skills are really important.

Networking is super important. When a school is looking for someone to fill a role, of course they advertise on enhanced posting, open posting, etc. but there will always be some form of searching within networks. It's human nature - the SLs are more likely to favour a candidate whom they've crossed paths with (in a positive way) before, or a candidate that their KPs and teachers can vouch for.

If you're always going in 'cold', you always have a tougher time proving yourself. This applies everywhere, even outside in the corporate world.

I think the promotion list is out.

8 yis
6 yrs as geo3

Screw this im out

Originally Posted by Unregistered

8 yis
6 yrs as geo3

Screw this im out

Don't be despair. You may be promoted this year

Originally Posted by Unregistered

8 yis
6 yrs as geo3

Screw this im out

Yah, don’t give up hope. You might be promoted this year.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Networking is super important. When a school is looking for someone to fill a role, of course they advertise on enhanced posting, open posting, etc. but there will always be some form of searching within networks. It's human nature - the SLs are more likely to favour a candidate whom they've crossed paths with (in a positive way) before, or a candidate that their KPs and teachers can vouch for.

If you're always going in 'cold', you always have a tougher time proving yourself. This applies everywhere, even outside in the corporate world.

I concur with this! Networking is super important in teaching as it is for other industries. Officers should always do their best to attend, or better yet, present at a cluster or national level. It may not have an impact on your CURRENT school but you will get noticed by other people. Trust me, there are some schools who actively approach people whom they are deemed good. Even if you want to transfer out of your current school, you will get better chances to transfer to a school where the working environment is better (such schools have very few openings because teachers don’t want to leave).

When it comes to promotion, bosses are very important. A colleague spent 7 years at GEO 3 in the previous school. He was quite active in presenting/participating in national conferences and events. Our school asked him to join, and offered him a KP position once there was an opening. He was promoted to GEO 4 in the year when he became acting and GEO 5 after another 2 years. We shared the same RO. I knew his CEP was raised significantly higher to expedite his promotion.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I concur with this! Networking is super important in teaching as it is for other industries. Officers should always do their best to attend, or better yet, present at a cluster or national level. It may not have an impact on your CURRENT school but you will get noticed by other people. Trust me, there are some schools who actively approach people whom they are deemed good. Even if you want to transfer out of your current school, you will get better chances to transfer to a school where the working environment is better (such schools have very few openings because teachers don’t want to leave).

When it comes to promotion, bosses are very important. A colleague spent 7 years at GEO 3 in the previous school. He was quite active in presenting/participating in national conferences and events. Our school asked him to join, and offered him a KP position once there was an opening. He was promoted to GEO 4 in the year when he became acting and GEO 5 after another 2 years. We shared the same RO. I knew his CEP was raised significantly higher to expedite his promotion.

How high? Only got SEO1 or SEO2 for most people right, realistically?

Yup list is out...just got the long-awaited news for promotion to GEO 5 after 6 yrs in GEO 4!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Networking is super important. When a school is looking for someone to fill a role, of course they advertise on enhanced posting, open posting, etc. but there will always be some form of searching within networks. It's human nature - the SLs are more likely to favour a candidate whom they've crossed paths with (in a positive way) before, or a candidate that their KPs and teachers can vouch for.

If you're always going in 'cold', you always have a tougher time proving yourself. This applies everywhere, even outside in the corporate world.

as much as it’s a reality it’s sad that public servants aren’t above this. they are spending taxpayers money and should hence be transparent