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Old 03-04-2019, 07:21 PM
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I didn't have any C- or D. All Cs.

I spent 4 years in my subgrade. This april just finish 4 years.

I started off as a masters degree holder fyi.

Btw, if i get my geo 4 next april, I only get promotion increment but no merit increment?

Can help?

This means your CEP isn't high. Most likely, that's why your SL and RO did not tell you the truth. CEP is confidential. Only your SLs and ROs will know.

Masters degree does not really have much effect on rate of promotion. But the class of honours do have an impact on your starting pay. That's why for teachers who subsequently upgraded and did a masters, they didn't see an increment on their pay.

Likewise for BTs who entered service without work experience, their starting pay is based on their classification of honours, even if they have a masters degree. Hard truth but that's a fact.

I have seen my fair share of teachers who despite being emplaced on the old GEO2.1 scheme were promoted multiple times.. It has got to do with their performance and CEP.. Their performance grades have been consistent Bs. You mentioned your performance is all C. That explains also. One teacher who despite being emplaced on the old geo 2.1 scheme has already hit GEO 5 within 7 years in service.

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I didn't have any C- or D. All Cs.

I spent 4 years in my subgrade. This april just finish 4 years.

I started off as a masters degree holder fyi.

Btw, if i get my geo 4 next april, I only get promotion increment but no merit increment?

Can help?
4 years and you hit your ceiling? Btw, I've seen colleagues who got promoted to GEO4 in their 9th and 10th year in service. Like others mentioned, it really depends on your CEP. Having a masters doesn't mean much as an EO unless you work towards the specialist track.

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4 years and you hit your ceiling? Btw, I've seen colleagues who got promoted to GEO4 in their 9th and 10th year in service. Like others mentioned, it really depends on your CEP. Having a masters doesn't mean much as an EO unless you work towards the specialist track.
She has clarified that she spent 4 years in her geo 3 subgrade.

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4 years and you hit your ceiling? Btw, I've seen colleagues who got promoted to GEO4 in their 9th and 10th year in service. Like others mentioned, it really depends on your CEP. Having a masters doesn't mean much as an EO unless you work towards the specialist track.
Yup I agree. As an RO myself, I can safely state that educational qualifications do not matter when the ranking panel assigns/reviews your CEP....

I got an M.Sc from NUS even before joining the teaching service, and my pay was roughly similar to someone with 1st Class Hons. Some of my peers with only a B.Sc (Hons) have gotten promoted faster than me, presumably because they have a higher CEP. I don't think I've done anything wrong, they're just... faster.
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This means your CEP isn't high. Most likely, that's why your SL and RO did not tell you the truth. CEP is confidential. Only your SLs and ROs will know.

Masters degree does not really have much effect on rate of promotion. But the class of honours do have an impact on your starting pay. That's why for teachers who subsequently upgraded and did a masters, they didn't see an increment on their pay.

Likewise for BTs who entered service without work experience, their starting pay is based on their classification of honours, even if they have a masters degree. Hard truth but that's a fact.

I have seen my fair share of teachers who despite being emplaced on the old GEO2.1 scheme were promoted multiple times.. It has got to do with their performance and CEP.. Their performance grades have been consistent Bs. You mentioned your performance is all C. That explains also. One teacher who despite being emplaced on the old geo 2.1 scheme has already hit GEO 5 within 7 years in service.

Hope it helps.
There's no policy or direct instruction from MOEHR that states CEP is confidential. Many ROs and SLs simply prefer it that way because revealing the CEP MIGHT make for awkward work review sessions. Like our students' fascination with their numerical grade, some officers might get overly fixated on their CEP, which isn't very healthy.

If you wanna bang table bang chair and demand to know your CEP, in a matter of time, I think your RO will relent and tell you. BUT I would advise you against it. Just do your best, and let the system take care of itself.

You don't need to know your CEP to get a sense of how your career is progressing (or not). Just compare yourself to similar-profile officers who came in around the same time as you.
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Hi there guys, has the promotion salary increment shown in pac?

I just got promoted from Geo3 to geo4

I checked on 1st April and there was a 200 increase in my gross salary with no change to the base min max.

Checked today and there is a another 300 increase(total 500),but the base salary range in still the same.
The lowest base range is $3515.
Would anyone have an idea of the geo4 salary scale?

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Yup I agree. As an RO myself, I can safely state that educational qualifications do not matter when the ranking panel assigns/reviews your CEP....

I got an M.Sc from NUS even before joining the teaching service, and my pay was roughly similar to someone with 1st Class Hons. Some of my peers with only a B.Sc (Hons) have gotten promoted faster than me, presumably because they have a higher CEP. I don't think I've done anything wrong, they're just... faster.
Ya. The fastest I have seen is a lady hitting GEO 5 after 5 years from a BT. But her CEP level was that of a director.
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Ya. The fastest I have seen is a lady hitting GEO 5 after 5 years from a BT. But her CEP level was that of a director.
CEP sucks man.... only performance grade determines and improves CEP? Looks like in 2020 i'm gonna get stuck again
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So when one hits ceiling, the next promotion will only get promotion increment and no merit increment cos the officer is at ceiling?
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Promoted to GEO3 4 years ago. Still at 3 but have maxed out payscale after latest increment. Will I be receiving increment next year then and would then mean Iíll be promoted to 4?
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